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    DSA 2023

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • A Offline
      anxious789
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      Just wondering, if we were to write to MGS, will they reveal how many students they accept transfer for SEC to IB in Sec 2?

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      • SG_KP1S Offline
        SG_KP1
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        anxious789\" post_id=\"2117671\" time=\"1693285383\" user_id=\"202673:

        Just wondering, if we were to write to MGS, will they reveal how many students they accept transfer for SEC to IB in Sec 2?
        The number I've seen before is 10 students, but please double-check with the school or see if anyone else can confirm (things also change year-to-year) if it matters to you.

        Anyone please feel free to correct if the above is not accurate.

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          anxious789
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          SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2117666\" time=\"1693284960\" user_id=\"188234:

          Tough call but not a bad spot to be in (congrats :rahrah: ). There's a lot of considerations; here are some initial thoughts.

          #1. IP (A) or SEC (O) to JAE: we can't know for sure because kids change / develop on their own and it's still a one-time test in S4. But we may have some idea on how likely it is we can get IB via the SEC (O) track? There is also SJI or the local int'l schools to try in Year 11-12 as well. I think there are a few transfers in S3 to IP (IB), but the last I saw the number is not large (maybe other current parents can confirm).

          #2. If there is a strong preference for one of the schools and/or the domain within the school, I will probably go there, irrespective of the track. Not sure what domain you are dealing with, but I think for any specific domain sometimes there is a strong preference for a particular school.

          Ultimately, whatever decision the child wants / is on board with is the best choice. Best of luck and regards.
          #1 Actually, I have no idea what's the statistic for #1. How likely it is to get into IB (ACSI / SJI) via the SEC (O) track? How many slots are there available for SEC students since they already have their own IB 6 years track students? Where can we find the statistics?

          Also, prob need to call up the local international schools to find out what's their criteria for joining IB in Year 11.

          Lastly, would a SEC (O) track students have less advantage academically compared to those that join IB since year 1 in MGS/ASC/SJI since they would not have been exposed to the IB curriculum since Sec 1? Would they struggle in IB in year 5/6 compared to those who join in year 1?

          #2 - all same domain (academic)

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            SG_KP1
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            anxious789\" post_id=\"2117674\" time=\"1693285966\" user_id=\"202673:

            #1 Actually, I have no idea what's the statistic for #1. How likely it is to get into IB (ACSI / SJI) via the SEC (O) track? How many slots are there available for SEC students since they already have their own IB 6 years track students? Where can we find the statistics?

            Also, prob need to call up the local international schools to find out what's their criteria for joining IB in Year 11.

            Lastly, would a SEC (O) track students have less advantage academically compared to those that join IB since year 1 in MGS/ASC/SJI since they would not have been exposed to the IB curriculum since Sec 1? Would they struggle in IB in year 5/6 compared to those who join in year 1?

            #2 - all same domain (academic)
            For ACS(I), the JAE vacancies are 110 - 130 (at least that's what's been posted online in recent years). If you work back from the ending IB cohort and subtract off the S1 IP intakes / S3 IP intakes (I believe ACS(I) adds more spaces in S3 than MGS does), it seems to make sense. The COP has been L1R5 = 5 points (net) the last few years. So statistic wise, I don't know. It's more a question of whether that may be reasonable for the child.

            I am not sure on your other questions either. However, I don't think the last one is a big deal because both ACS(I) and SJI add kids from O Level.

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
              zac's mum
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              anxious789\" post_id=\"2117674\" time=\"1693285966\" user_id=\"202673:

              #1 Actually, I have no idea what's the statistic for #1. How likely it is to get into IB (ACSI / SJI) via the SEC (O) track? How many slots are there available for SEC students since they already have their own IB 6 years track students? Where can we find the statistics?

              Also, prob need to call up the local international schools to find out what's their criteria for joining IB in Year 11.

              Lastly, would a SEC (O) track students have less advantage academically compared to those that join IB since year 1 in MGS/ASC/SJI since they would not have been exposed to the IB curriculum since Sec 1? Would they struggle in IB in year 5/6 compared to those who join in year 1?

              #2 - all same domain (academic)
              I can help u a bit for #1. Not with the vacancies but the “how likely” for JAE applicants coming from the SEC O level track:

              ACSI’s Y5 COP is 5 points (no affiliation discount given);
              SJI’s Y5 COP is 7 points.

              MGS O level track has affiliation -2 points to ACJC only (COP is 8 for Science stream; 9 for Arts stream. A levels, not IB).

              My child is in O level track (not MGS). U are right, damn tiring just thinking of another major exam in 4 years’ time. Also Y3 entry/transfer is like u said, another hard slog academically plus must excel just like another DSA fight.

              If u’re ok with A level IP route, my thought is just take either of the other 2 COs u have in hand already.

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              • C Offline
                CYXMum
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                For those that hv been waiting … mgs ip results out today!

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                  SG_KP1
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                  anxious789\" post_id=\"2117671\" time=\"1693285383\" user_id=\"202673:
                  SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2117673\" time=\"1693285779\" user_id=\"188234:[quote=SG_KP1 post_id=2117673 time=1693285779 user_id=188234]The number I've seen before is 10 students, but please double-check with the school or see if anyone else can confirm (things also change year-to-year) if it matters to you.

                  Anyone please feel free to correct if the above is not accurate.
                  Also, if you accept the MGS SEC (O) offer and hit the MGS IP COP, you can try to appeal for a space from S1. I think some of the prior materials indicated they will put DSA O kids high on the transfer list. However, this still may not be a high probability event (need vacancies to become available and there may be other O DSA students trying to transfer too).

                  BTW, what other IP A schools have released? I'm only aware of one girls' school and no coed schools yet (and the boys' schools wouldn't be relevant to you). NUSH is also out but that is NUSH Diploma. Understand if you prefer to keep this to yourself...

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                    00skyblue00
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                    anxious789\" post_id=\"2117674\" time=\"1693285966\" user_id=\"202673:

                    #1 Actually, I have no idea what's the statistic for #1. How likely it is to get into IB (ACSI / SJI) via the SEC (O) track? How many slots are there available for SEC students since they already have their own IB 6 years track students? Where can we find the statistics?

                    Also, prob need to call up the local international schools to find out what's their criteria for joining IB in Year 11.

                    Lastly, would a SEC (O) track students have less advantage academically compared to those that join IB since year 1 in MGS/ASC/SJI since they would not have been exposed to the IB curriculum since Sec 1? Would they struggle in IB in year 5/6 compared to those who join in year 1?

                    #2 - all same domain (academic)
                    Great news for your family!
                    Without much info on the child, can only guess from #2. IB requires very strong Eng and if child enjoys writing and forming strong views, may give you some hints. If child is strong in STEM, the child has to be prepared if she likes the nature of IB vs A levels. A levels allow more in depth research etc. What does the child prefer? The other IP schools are girls schools too?

                    Edited:
                    Also Eng Lit is compulsory in IB. Many sec sch kids are not keen to read E. Lit in upp sec or higher. Strong in Eng and Lit wld give the child advantage in IB.

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                    • John MemekJ Offline
                      John Memek
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                      Just want to consolidate the DSA release date from the list from before…


                      Please edit or amend if I missed out anything.

                      DSA 2023 Results Released Dates

                      1st week of Aug 2023
                      - Nan Chiau (sport domain)

                      4th August 2023
                      - NUS High School of Mathematics and Science (NUSH)
                      - Fuhua Secondary School
                      - Nan Chiau High School - Visual Arts
                      - Chung Cheng High School Yishun (CCHY) - Guzheng Ensemble
                      - Bendemeer - Tchoukball

                      8th August 2023
                      - Victoria school (verbal offer) - Track and Field

                      11th August 2023
                      - Nan Hua High - Rejection email

                      17th August 2023
                      - RI - Hockey

                      18th August 2023
                      - SJI - Track and Field

                      19th August 2023
                      - SOTA

                      21st August 2023
                      - HCI - Infocom, Science, Math

                      22nd August 2023
                      - Xinmin
                      - ACSI - sports (Track and Field), Robotics

                      23rd August 2023
                      - BGSS - Tchoukball
                      - SST

                      25th August 2023
                      - RGS - Sports, English, Sci, Math, MEP, AEP
                      - CHIJ Toapayoh

                      29th August 2023
                      - MGS

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                        CYXMum
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                        John Memek\" post_id=\"2117684\" time=\"1693289881\" user_id=\"54616:[quote=\"John Memek\" post_id=2117684 time=1693289881 user_id=54616]
                        Just want to consolidate the DSA release date from the list from before....

                        Please edit or amend if I missed out anything.

                        DSA 2023 Results Released Dates

                        1st week of Aug 2023
                        - Nan Chiau (sport domain)

                        4th August 2023
                        - NUS High School of Mathematics and Science (NUSH)
                        - Fuhua Secondary School
                        - Nan Chiau High School - Visual Arts
                        - Chung Cheng High School Yishun (CCHY) - Guzheng Ensemble
                        - Bendemeer - Tchoukball

                        8th August 2023
                        - Victoria school (verbal offer) - Track and Field

                        11th August 2023
                        - Nan Hua High - Rejection email

                        17th August 2023
                        - RI - Hockey

                        18th August 2023
                        - SJI - Track and Field

                        19th August 2023
                        - SOTA

                        21st August 2023
                        - HCI - Infocom, Science, Math

                        22nd August 2023
                        - Xinmin
                        - ACSI - sports (Track and Field), Robotics

                        23rd August 2023
                        - BGSS - Tchoukball
                        - SST

                        25th August 2023
                        - RGS - Sports, English, Sci, Math, MEP, AEP
                        - CHIJ Toapayoh

                        29th August 2023
                        - MGS[/quote]

                        MGS IP (STEM) btw

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