Education that goes beyond grades
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Got tldw version or not?
Education minister was asked tough questions in this podcast. On what he would do if he is in the shoes of parents already stressed out by the demands of everyday lives. Hear what the minster has to say:
https://youtu.be/Btb3czZ-PB8?si=NwcqrfDhoGXXLZBM -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2119168\" time=\"1694913164\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2119168 time=1694913164 user_id=53606]
not that I know of. although its more than an hour long, the conversation covered lots of grounds. The minister also revealed a little of his own challenges with his children too.
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The 1hr 15mins video is indeed too long!
We only watched the first 5-10mins. Joanna Peh asked if Minister Chan ever thought of becoming a Minister one day. Min Chan replied no and how his childhood dream was to become a librarian.
Coincidentally, my DH’s dream was to be a librarian too, therefore he joint as a school librarian for 6yrs!! He was in the same school as Minister Chan from Sec 1 to JC 2 but hardly saw Minister Chan visiting the RI and RJC library, except when Min Chan needed to print pass year papers.
According to my hub, from very young, Minister Chan already showed traits as “a very ambitious young man”. He was a “02 Scout”. Back then, 01 Scout was the most sought after CCA and many potential scholars in RI were inside 01 Scout. 人才济济。 Maybe he knew he would not stand out in 01 Scout so he chose to join the not so competitive 02 Scout. He quickly rose to become the leader there.
He displayed leadership in uniform group and good track record. He did not join as a librarian for sure. Were he to join the library as a librarian no way can he display leadership qualities.
One must have the internal drive, motivation and also the discipline to realise one’s objectives. Don’t ever imagine one could be a librarian, sit under a coconut tree and then suddenly can become a minister. Must work hard, good things don’t fall from the sky. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2119184\" time=\"1694934138\" user_id=\"17023:
OK, I know this is said somewhat in jest, but as an ex-librarian, I feel I have to say something! Anyone who has seen what a librarian does, or has worked in a library, will know that librarians do more than sit under trees (of any kind). And \"internal drive, motivation and ... discipline\", as well as leadership, can be displayed in any field of work. [see note below - my afterthought]displayed leadership in uniform group and good track record. He did not join as a librarian for sure. Were he to join the library as a librarian no way can he display leadership qualities.
One must have the internal drive, motivation and also the discipline to realise one’s objectives. Don’t ever imagine one could be a librarian, sit under a coconut tree and then suddenly can become a minister. Must work hard, good things don’t fall from the sky.
With increasing need for storage and retrieval of information, and the ability to sift through ton-loads of it to assess value and usefulness, librarians (now often called information scientists or resource managers) are as important as ever before.
On re-reading Lyl's post - I guess the comment is referring to student librarians, not professional ones. And I guess the comments are fairly true as student librarians do not have the skills, training and responsibilities as \"real\" librarians! -
People who are staying in bungalow house in charge of the development of public housing. How could they really know the issues facing those staying in HDB?
People who are driving their own cars in charge of the development of public transportation. How could they really know the feeling of travelling in a crowded SBS Buses or MRT trains during rush hours?
People who were studying in the top school in charge of the development of Education. How could they really know the needs of those academical weak students?
People who are not from the Public Medical Sector in charge of the development of the public healthcare system. How could they really know the problems facing by patients? -
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I am just curious why a minister who claimed his childhood dream was to be a librarian did not join the school library but chose to join a uniform group instead. Maybe one had to make a choice between a childhood dream (to be a librarian) vs what’s more practical (leadership role in uniform group) knowing that the latter will help one clinch a prestigious scholarship, which obviously is more important.
OK, I know this is said somewhat in jest, but as an ex-librarian, I feel I have to say something! Anyone who has seen what a librarian does, or has worked in a library, will know that librarians do more than sit under trees (of any kind). And \"internal drive, motivation and ... discipline\", as well as leadership, can be displayed in any field of work. [see note below - my afterthought]
With increasing need for storage and retrieval of information, and the ability to sift through ton-loads of it to assess value and usefulness, librarians (now often called information scientists or resource managers) are as important as ever before.
On re-reading Lyl's post - I guess the comment is referring to student librarians, not professional ones. And I guess the comments are fairly true as student librarians do not have the skills, training and responsibilities as \"real\" librarians! -
People that run the social services very likely would not have own family members in need of social services. Goh Keng Swee, our 1st defence minister, lay a strong foundation for our defence, was not a soldier by profession. Having personally being through the ground experiences is not a pre requisite to do a good job.
My childhood dream is to be a pop star. My colleague’s is to marry a cook, get to eat delicious food for free. Those were phases of our life we never take them seriously and still share with others now and then, for amusement.
When I was young I find many parents “out dated” when they nudge their children to find job in a bank - deal with money surely will earn a lot of money. They were thinking in term of their personal experiences back in their time. They failed to notice our time was different from theirs. we now as parents, are we also repeating our parents’ mistakes, by applying “out dated” thinking when judging what is best for our children?
In that video , among the many topics he discussed, in one of topics the educational minister shared details from his time at trade union and also as trade minister, his interactions with top companies on what they are looking for in today’s world, when recruiting staff. these industry feedbacks now go into formulating Singapore education policy.
our time as students was much simpler. We seldom hear about mental issue back. Maybe we as parents should not apply our simplistic views formulated back then, to the approach of education needed in the current world. -
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Is there a CCA in school that allows one to be a rockstar or chef in training? There’s however a library CCA to allow one to have a sense of what is it like to be a librarian.
My childhood dream is to be a pop star. My colleague’s is to marry a cook, get to eat delicious food for free. Those were phases of our life we never take them seriously and still share with others now and then, for amusement.
At the end of the day, it’s a politician talking to embellish his public persona. Listen and forget -
Thanks for the Rec. I actually sit thru the 1.15h recording and found myself liking the interview haha……anyways CCS mentioned one of his children is a special-needs child. Is this a known fact? So far for the ministers. Only Denise Phua openly shared that she has a special-needs kid right?
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I earlier responded to this, but the message disappeared - probably because of the issues experienced currently. Hope this one goes through! Am testing it now, and will add more later if this goes through - don't want to waste my effort.
I am just curious why a minister who claimed his childhood dream was to be a librarian did not join the school library but chose to join a uniform group instead. Maybe one had to make a choice between a childhood dream (to be a librarian) vs what’s more practical (leadership role in uniform group) knowing that the latter will help one clinch a prestigious scholarship, which obviously is more important. -
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I’ve known CCS’s wife struggling with his Special Needs boy the moment he was born. It’s not easy for his wife when he was very engaged as a minister.
Thanks for the Rec. I actually sit thru the 1.15h recording and found myself liking the interview haha…..anyways CCS mentioned one of his children is a special-needs child. Is this a known fact? So far for the ministers. Only Denise Phua openly shared that she has a special-needs kid right?
Besides Denise Phua, Iswaran’s son is also Special Needs (now that he’s under investigation, I guess it’s going to be tougher for the wife). A few other ministers have mildly SN children and hv to struggle like all parents with a demanding needs child, except that many have to ‘suffer’ in silence or manage out of public sight.
I just hope non of these ministers’ children need to go thro’ pressures for their educational output, but are encouraged to be free to pursue their passions in life. Not sure if anyone rmbrs our ex-minister, Lau Peng Sum’s son who committed suicide right after his exams, thinking that he didn’t do well. Eventually, his son was conferred 1st class honors posthumously.
It’s sad to hv to sad a child off, it’s even sadder for Singaporeans to hv lost a bright young person who cld hv lived a meaningful life, only if he hasn’t thought his efforts were meaningless. A healthy mental health is impt for all our kids. -
In that podcast interview CCS talks about mental health being the foundation where all our educations are rested upon. Without a strong foundation the rest will be shaky.
LHL’s son has special need too. At his own pace , he graduated from NUS eventually. -
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There are many types and degrees of special needs. In the current day, there is an increasing recognition of milder special needs, where the person is not completely disabled, but still struggles to a greater or lesser extent with normal education/work/life. Some people with special needs make it through university - some are brilliant, others need greater or lesser amounts of support. We need to accept that not everyone can reach the same end point, but that we can celebrate everyone who has done the best with what skills and abilities they have.
In that podcast interview CCS talks about mental health being the foundation where all our educations are rested upon. Without a strong foundation the rest will be shaky.
LHL’s son has special need too. At his own pace , he graduated from NUS eventually. -
How local schools’ compound designs have changed through the years:
https://www.straitstimes.com/multimedia/graphics/2022/04/school-design-through-the-decades/index.html?shell