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    2023 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2011)

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    • floppyF Offline
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      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2122925\" time=\"1700440555\" user_id=\"43981:

      On ranking of choices. It doesn't matter right ie student A with AL14 put Z school as her 1st choice while student B with AL13 put same school as 4th choice. Student B will get admission first.
      Yes, that is correct.

      The student with the higher AL score will always go first.

      The “problem” with the AL score system, however, is that you will see a bunching up of scorers around 15 to 20 due to the way the AL points are distributed. Hence, rank placement for schools in that zone can become a lot more tricky.

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        Floppy…I read again and this ‘However, COP is only part of the picture as rank placement also plays a big part now.’


        May I know what is this referring to?

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        • floppyF Offline
          floppy
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          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2122934\" time=\"1700442024\" user_id=\"43981:

          Floppy..I read again and this 'However, COP is only part of the picture as rank placement also plays a big part now.'

          May I know what is this referring to?
          See above edited message.

          Simply, there will be more 15 pointers than, say, 8 pointers. Therefore, schools with COP around 8 (for example) are less likely to change (drastically) compared to schools with 16 point COP.

          If a wave of students with 14 points flock to a school with 17 points (maybe the sec school was actively reaching out to the nearby primary schools or the school introduce something exciting), the COP or remaining places can change by quite a bit. A 15 or 16 pointer who pick the school as the 5th or maybe 6th choice thinking it was safe maybe disappointed as other 15 or 16 pointer who have placed the school among the top 3 choices will get in first.

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          • MrsKiasuM Offline
            MrsKiasu
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            floppy\" post_id=\"2122932\" time=\"1700441883\" user_id=\"97579:

            Yes, that is correct.

            The student with the higher AL score will always go first.

            The “problem” with the AL score system, however, is that you will see a bunching up of scorers around 15 to 20 due to the way the AL points are distributed. Hence, rank placement for schools in that zone can become a lot more tricky.
            :yikes:

            Something like many students get 15-20 for schools in that zone..so eg when a big group of students with same AL15 applying to same school that has less than capacity to absorb all. So will further sort by HCL for SAP school then citizenship etc?

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            • floppyF Offline
              floppy
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              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2122936\" time=\"1700442465\" user_id=\"43981:

              :yikes:

              Something like many students get 15-20 for schools in that zone..so eg when a big group of students with same AL15 applying to same school that has less than capacity to absorb all. So will further sort by HCL for SAP school then citizenship etc?
              Sorry. I’ve edited the message to make it clearer but generally, yes.

              SAP schools are quite unlikely to face the problem since HCL is already part of the sorting process.

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                floppy\" post_id=\"2122935\" time=\"1700442060\" user_id=\"97579:

                See above edited message.

                Simply, there will be more 15 pointers than, say, 8 pointers. Therefore, schools with COP around 8 (for example) are less likely to change (drastically) compared to schools with 16 point COP.

                If a wave of students with 14 points flock to a school with 17 points (maybe the sec school was actively reaching out to the nearby primary schools or the school introduce something exciting), the COP or remaining places can change by quite a bit. A 15 or 16 pointer who pick the school as the 5th or maybe 6th choice thinking it was safe maybe disappointed as other 15 or 16 pointer who have placed the school among the top 3 choices will get in first.
                Ok understand. Thanks.

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                • blackyvB Offline
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                  MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2122930\" time=\"1700441320\" user_id=\"43981:

                  If your child gets AL6, will get into NJC instead? But got 7 options?

                  I just list out all schools shortlisted, if she gets al6, more headache for us, haha.. national JC is the farthest, I stay in Pg.. will take more than 1hr traveling daily for her.. really not a good choice considering the amount of time on the road ..will be damn tiring for her with those heavy jc load..

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                  • blackyvB Offline
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                    floppy\" post_id=\"2122932\" time=\"1700441883\" user_id=\"97579:

                    Yes, that is correct.

                    The student with the higher AL score will always go first.

                    The “problem” with the AL score system, however, is that you will see a bunching up of scorers around 15 to 20 due to the way the AL points are distributed. Hence, rank placement for schools in that zone can become a lot more tricky.
                    My guess.. moe have all the scoring and numbers. Your al1 may not be the same as my al1 if base on scoring. And knowing they like to use number to rank, not hard for them to decides who get in first even both student score the same Al..

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                      blackyv\" post_id=\"2122939\" time=\"1700442809\" user_id=\"56432:

                      I just list out all schools shortlisted, if she gets al6, more headache for us, haha.. national JC is the farthest, I stay in Pg.. will take more than 1hr traveling daily for her.. really not a good choice considering the amount of time on the road ..will be damn tiring for her with those heavy jc load..
                      I feel that if she loves the school, she may be more willing to travel.

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                      • floppyF Offline
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                        blackyv\" post_id=\"2122940\" time=\"1700443071\" user_id=\"56432:

                        My guess.. moe have all the scoring and numbers. Your al1 may not be the same as my al1 if base on scoring. And knowing they like to use number to rank, not hard for them to decides who get in first even both student score the same Al..
                        I am not a conspiracy theorist. Besides, I may have a little bit more faith in our civil service and system for apolitical matters.

                        The problem is really a mathematical one. One, the AL scores are not distributed evenly - the lower scores are narrowly defined (~ 5points) whereas the higher scores are widely defined (by as much as 20 points). Two, there are more combinations to score 15 points whereas there are only so many ways you can score 8 points.

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