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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2125952\" time=\"1703901624\" user_id=\"143605:

      This kid answered,
      38 is an even number while 17 is an odd number.
      Apparently the class had just been taught about even and odd numbers.
      The answer to me is not wrong and is relevant to maths too. But teacher marked it wrong and never speak to the kid. Hence, i think only parents who are involved will be able explain further to the kid.

      To me, there is no concern at all to lose this type of 1 point. The kid consistently get above 90 until PSLE. Still getting high marks in sec sch. But u know why the kid will never get full marks even though it is maths. Kids with minds of their own... Back then parents just told the kid, this type, is not a fault and they wouldn't be bothered.

      Bringing this up since the discussion was abt standard answers and sensitivity to choice of words.

      The qn could have phrased
      Find out the difference of x from y.
      To subtract x from y.
      Etc.
      The difference between x and y? Is this correctly phrased if it meant subtraction?

      As for your sci qn, the reply seems not complete. Depends on the marks. If 1 mark qn, it may be lack of technical term. If essay, can be elaborated.
      In \"Math-speak\", \"difference\" always refers to subtraction, as far as I recall. Similarly, \"sum\", \"product\" and \"quotient\" for the other operators.

      If a young child gives a \"spot the difference\" answer rather than a \"Maths-speak\" answer, I would probably praise him for realising that the question can be interpreted in more than one way, but point to the fact that it was a Maths question, and therefore should be interpreted in \"Maths-speak\". Learning which meaning to apply in various contexts is part of growing up. In fact, an aspect of the disability in autism is the inability (though some can be taught and can improve) to take things literally without considering context.

      And if it's an older child who's trying to be cheeky, then probably a telling-off might be in order.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        Another one for laughs. This one is definitely being cheeky :spank: . Sorry for the OT!


        https://i.imgur.com/s5hZcwG.jpeg\">

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        • ChiefKiasuC Offline
          ChiefKiasu
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2125925\" time=\"1703898796\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2125925 time=1703898796 user_id=53606]
          ...
          Let me show you my child’s answer for a Sec 1 science qn…answer is not wrong but yet it is wrong, if u know what i mean 🙄
          ...[/quote]
          :rotflmao: The answer is so funny. Innocently accurate, but sadly wrong. Actually, I would like to add that \"virtual\" and \"image\" basically are analogous. Why not just call it an image?

          The intricacies of science 🤷 .

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          • sharonkhooS Offline
            sharonkhoo
            last edited by

            ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2125958\" time=\"1703903333\" user_id=\"3:

            :rotflmao: The answer is so funny. Innocently accurate, but sadly wrong. Actually, I would like to add that \"virtual\" and \"image\" basically are analogous. Why not just call it an image?

            The intricacies of science 🤷 .
            To contrast with \"real image\"?

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            • ChiefKiasuC Offline
              ChiefKiasu
              last edited by

              zac's mum\" post_id=\"2125956\" time=\"1703903129\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2125956 time=1703903129 user_id=53606]
              Another one for laughs. This one is definitely being cheeky :spank: . Sorry for the OT!
              ...[/quote]
              I think she must have watched too much Monsters, Inc.

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              • 00skyblue000 Offline
                00skyblue00
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                slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2125953\" time=\"1703902844\" user_id=\"28674:

                In \"Math-speak\", \"difference\" always refers to subtraction, as far as I recall. Similarly, \"sum\", \"product\" and \"quotient\" for the other operators.

                If a young child gives a \"spot the difference\" answer rather than a \"Maths-speak\" answer, I would probably praise him for realising that the question can be interpreted in more than one way, but point to the fact that it was a Maths question, and therefore should be interpreted in \"Maths-speak\". Learning which meaning to apply in various contexts is part of growing up. In fact, an aspect of the disability in autism is the inability (though some can be taught and can improve) to take things literally without considering context.

                And if it's an older child who's trying to be cheeky, then probably a telling-off might be in order.
                Parents were not keen to go after that point and had no concern at all. Is only a p1, 2 kid. Only exposed to formal learning for 1 yr or so. Jfyi, this kid had no tuition so not done tons and tons of worksheets type. Yes, its part of learning experience.

                I brought it up coz i think the issue if any is the kid is sensitive to choice of words. But a good teacher would speak to the kid, i wld expect.
                Was definition of difference in maths properly defined to kids and taught that maths lang is not std English?

                I recall during my time, maths qns were not phrased very well.

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                • 00skyblue000 Offline
                  00skyblue00
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                  slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2125960\" time=\"1703903507\" user_id=\"28674:

                  To contrast with \"real image\"?
                  Shldnt it be virtual vs physical?

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                  • sharonkhooS Offline
                    sharonkhoo
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                    00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2125966\" time=\"1703905096\" user_id=\"143605:

                    Shldnt it be virtual vs physical?
                    This is how the answer in the example seemed to understand it (in the digital arena), but in physics, assuming that the topic was optics/lenses, there is a distinction between virtual and real images.

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                    • sharonkhooS Offline
                      sharonkhoo
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                      00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2125962\" time=\"1703903607\" user_id=\"143605:

                      Was definition of difference in maths properly defined to kids and taught that maths lang is not std English?

                      I recall during my time, maths qns were not phrased very well.
                      In my time (and I'm older, so I'm referring to the 70s), the words \"sum\", \"difference\", \"product\" and \"quotient\" were well-drummed into us in Maths.

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                      • bbbayB Offline
                        bbbay
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                        all the top academic students (top 10%) identified by PSLE, most of them will enrol into IP schools. And statistically , these students should continue to perform better than non IP students (outside top 10 %) in A level examination 6 years later. Buy why NYJC , with all its students from JAE intake (outside top 10%), consistently outperforms many IP JCs in A level?

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