JC or Poly?
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I m not sure tho. I somehow find the COP for JC ‘don’t have a good spread’ when it comes to digit aggregate. JCs with single digit looks very dense but when comes to double digit it looks very spread out. Could these above average students turning to Poly courses that require single digit agg …thereafter split between local/overseas uni whereas A level students route usually is to local Uni ? Btw, we talking abt local uni right?
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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2126691\" time=\"1704808701\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2126691 time=1704808701 user_id=195250]
I tend to agree our generation people are more resourceful and we are forced to learn and find out what we want as many of our parents are not knowledgeable enough to guide plus choices were much simpler then. Right now, maybe it’s overparenting cos parents are more knowledgeable and kiasu and also the plethora of choices available are astounding so not surprised that a 17y/o is confused or undecided and require guidance.
I don't know what happened to the new generation, at the age of 17, still not able to take charge of his or her own learning and future life. For my generation, many of my classmates had already came out to work as full time and financially support their young brothers and sisters. Is it the kids problem or parents problem? Nowadays lot of ‘’妈宝‘’, the parents control everything and the kids no need to think, the parents will arrange everything for them. :drool:[/quote] -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2126700\" time=\"1704813271\" user_id=\"2358:
Yes, we as parents, can provide some advice and opinion based on our experience, but have to let the kids make their final decision because it is their life not our life. Maybe we can talk more on it under me time in future.
I tend to agree our generation people are more resourceful and we are forced to learn and find out what we want as many of our parents are not knowledgeable enough to guide plus choices were much simpler then. Right now, maybe it’s overparenting cos parents are more knowledgeable and kiasu and also the plethora of choices available are astounding so not surprised that a 17y/o is confused or undecided and require guidance. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2126692\" time=\"1704809572\" user_id=\"43981:
The statistics are usually for local university as it is hard to get statistics for overseas university. Even if polys survey their alumni, not all will respond. Some who take A levels also go overseas. As do some who graduate from poly. Not sure what proportion, and it would probably be difficult to find out. There are more options at every decision point these days.
I m not sure tho. I somehow find the COP for JC 'don't have a good spread' when it comes to digit aggregate. JCs with single digit looks very dense but when comes to double digit it looks very spread out. Could these above average students turning to Poly courses that require single digit agg ..thereafter split between local/overseas uni whereas A level students route usually is to local Uni ? Btw, we talking abt local uni right?
Students who get double digit scores for O levels are the ones who are more likely to go to poly, which probably explains why there are fewer JCs which take in those students. -
JCs have had to merge …probably because demand tilted towards poly + declining birth cohort?
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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2126691\" time=\"1704808701\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2126691 time=1704808701 user_id=195250]
Parents, especially Asian parents, tend to have the view that doing more for a child is a good thing. So I see a lot of over-parenting these days. My parents were \"ahead of their time\" in over-parenting my brother and me, but were still less so than the average parent today!
I don't know what happened to the new generation, at the age of 17, still not able to take charge of his or her own learning and future life. For my generation, many of my classmates had already came out to work as full time and financially support their young brothers and sisters. Is it the kids problem or parents problem? Nowadays lot of ‘’妈宝‘’, the parents control everything and the kids no need to think, the parents will arrange everything for them. :drool:[/quote]
My husband and I have spent a lot of time with teens and young adults, since we were young adults ourselves. We have definitely seen the shift over the years. Parents and teachers now assume that even teens and young adults need to be treated like children, and tend to spoil and pamper, and at the same time insist on controlling their lives. We can try to be different in our own families, but it's hard to change society. Delayed adolescence, when even those in the 20s and early 30s think and behave like teenagers, is very evident in the young people I see. -
I am seeing a marked change in secondary school though, regarding how the teachers treat the “kids” and speak to them. They respect their transition into adulthood so they empower them to manage their own work etc. without hovering too much.
Communications with parents are also kept to a minimum, with the micro details disseminated directly to the students themselves (often delegated down the line to student leaders & then further down the line…)
The majority of communications that come thru on PG nowadays are on parenting. How to parent your teenager, how to speak to them about sexuality, how to be aware of signs of vaping by your child. It’s not about the academic side liao. -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2126724\" time=\"1704847004\" user_id=\"13281:
Haha I think so..less than 10 and more than 10 maybe?
JCs have had to merge ...probably because demand tilted towards poly + declining birth cohort? -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2126724\" time=\"1704847004\" user_id=\"13281:
The number of polys is still the same though. Did they increase their intake/capacity in recent years?
JCs have had to merge ...probably because demand tilted towards poly + declining birth cohort? -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2126691\" time=\"1704808701\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2126691 time=1704808701 user_id=195250]
For the older generation, many had no choice but to come out early to work to support the family. Plus for many of them, I supposed their parents not highly educated.
I don't know what happened to the new generation, at the age of 17, still not able to take charge of his or her own learning and future life. For my generation, many of my classmates had already came out to work as full time and financially support their young brothers and sisters. Is it the kids problem or parents problem? Nowadays lot of ‘’妈宝‘’, the parents control everything and the kids no need to think, the parents will arrange everything for them. :drool:[/quote]
You find there are many, many “宝妈” in the younger generation, but these “宝妈”的妈妈 must have come from your so called “older generation” who had to make own decisions at 17yo. Maybe many had wished they had someone older and wiser to guide them so that they could have 少走弯路.
Spend time and effort to guide own child is a given, who is so free to guide neighbor’s child?
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