Anglo-Chinese School (Independent)

[autolycus]

manorway\" post_id=\"2127485\" time=\"1705681860\" user_id=\"9303:

If school knows who should NOT be grading or supervising, does this mean that teacher will NOT be teaching that subject anymore? Are there TOK teachers who teach but don't supervise/grade?

Aha, I cannot answer those questions: I cannot say yes or no with certainty.

[manorway]

autolycus\" post_id=\"2127486\" time=\"1705682408\" user_id=\"16143:

autolycus\" post_id=\"2127478\" time=\"1705671483\" user_id=\"16143:[quote=autolycus post_id=2127478 time=1705671483 user_id=16143]It is about as challenging to get a 7 for Lit or Lang/Lit as it is to get a 7 for computer science.

A red flag that's quite red to me is when students say that they don't know anything about Subject X, or that they don't know what's going on in TOK class. So students are mostly left to discover things for themselves without the guidance and mentorship required. Students can help themselves by reading widely and discussing what they read with a group of similarly dedicated schoolmates.

Thank you for the tips!

I have a child who scored a 7 in Langlit and CS but I was told the IA for Langlit was the challenging part for this child, not the written paper. I understand from others it is usually the other way round. Now I am just trying to figure out the gaps between a 6 and 7. Vested interest.

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autolycus\" post_id=\"2127478\" time=\"1705671483\" user_id=\"16143:

so I can tell you that the coding structure in CS is similar to the structure of a well-written book, poem or play. It's just a bit of mental gymnastics to draw the appropriate analogy. The problem is most lit teachers are not historians or programmers, so they miss out on how to construct a structured yet inspired response.

Hmm…. I know quite a bit about programming but am a noob in language. Is there any book you can recommend that teaches how to construct a structured yet inspired response with words?

[autolycus]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2127490\" time=\"1705707757\" user_id=\"175278:

Hmm…. I know quite a bit about programming but am a noob in language. Is there any book you can recommend that teaches how to construct a structured yet inspired response with words?

I think it's just technique. Before writing, you need a design document: what are the specs needed, what is the context of the design, what modifications do you need for the reader to understand your text, what is the expected flow of the output. That's a basic framework. You will also need formatting guidelines: how many words in what font size, how should data/quotations be represented and presented, etc. It's like the engineering/architecture mix, but with words.

You build what you need (function) and infuse it with your personal style (form). For Group 1, you need to sell your product verbally too.

For some forms it is easier to see the coding analogy. For example, in plays, your Dramatis Personae is basically a declaration of the 'library' available (each person in the play has set behaviours and outputs, which are implicit so you have to do some digging, just as you wouldn't use a library function without understanding it first). The interaction and arrangement of these functions is what gives the story, and occasionally the playwright (the programmer) adds comments and bridging between them. Good programmers make the plot complex but logical.

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ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2127473\" time=\"1705668144\" user_id=\"3:

Chemistry and History?! Wow! That's pretty diverse What's your degree in the university? Bachelor of Science or Arts?

The trend now in uni is interdisciplinary course. One can major in A and minor or major in B discipline. Eg integrated studis in smu.
Nus and ntu allow too. Students can use a few free credits to take modules from other disciplines.

Likely the student is inclined towards Arts subjects but can do sci esp chem, for practical reasons being in sg.

My kid is inclined towards sciences esp chem but enjoys history and can do well in it too. So likely do sci prog in uni and just keep history as pastime.

[00skyblue00]

autolycus\" post_id=\"2127492\" time=\"1705709249\" user_id=\"16143:

I think it's just technique. Before writing, you need a design document: what are the specs needed, what is the context of the design, what modifications do you need for the reader to understand your text, what is the expected flow of the output. That's a basic framework. You will also need formatting guidelines: how many words in what font size, how should data/quotations be represented and presented, etc. It's like the engineering/architecture mix, but with words.

You build what you need (function) and infuse it with your personal style (form). For Group 1, you need to sell your product verbally too.

For some forms it is easier to see the coding analogy. For example, in plays, your Dramatis Personae is basically a declaration of the 'library' available (each person in the play has set behaviours and outputs, which are implicit so you have to do some digging, just as you wouldn't use a library function without understanding it first). The interaction and arrangement of these functions is what gives the story, and occasionally the playwright (the programmer) adds comments and bridging between them. Good programmers make the plot complex but logical.

This sharing turned discussion is intriguing so cannot resist to interrupt.

To get 6, one has to make the prog works as tasked. But out of the 10 programs which claimed to complete the same tasks assigned, the one that stands out is the one to get 7?
To achieve the level of getting 7, the efficiency and elegance (cleverness and style of writing) of the method employed will make the difference. Something like quantum computing vs classical computing?

[phtthp]

If your TOK teacher in Year 6 say (feedback to you) you can be expecting an "A" grade for your TOK submission, but


end up shocked in the end, because u gotten a "C" grade instead,
can you

request IB examiners to re-grade your TOK submission ?

Because "C" grade means … zero mark, after spending so many hours, putting in so much time & effort to write so much, so much, for your TOK.

The request to re-grade or re-mark is somewhat similar to …
what the PSLE students did ?

That is, ask SEAB to re-grade their PSLE (Science / Maths ) papers ?

Because

upon 45 (maximum),

each & every single mark is very crucial (important), in the overall IB marking scheme (system), for admission into universities, both local & abroad (overseas).

Example

Here, lose 1 point in TOK,
there, lose another point in Group 1
English Literature language,
there, yet lose another point in "IA",
there, yet lose another point in "EE", etc.

TOK : theory of knowledge

EE : Extended Essay

[autolycus]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2127498\" time=\"1705712242\" user_id=\"35251:

If your TOK teacher in Year 6 say (feedback to you) you can be expecting an \"A\" grade for your TOK submission, but

end up shocked in the end, because u gotten a \"C\" grade instead,
can you

request IB examiners to re-grade your TOK submission ?

Yes, you can request a re-grading. A lot of people do it, for reasons that you've pointed out. The internal marking side is 1/3 the grade, and that can be moderated by the IB (for example, if the school is clearly too lenient or too strict) and the external marking is 2/3 the grade and may be re-marked. Since you know your exact score (and the grade boundaries!), if you are off by 1 mark from the grade boundary, it is probably worthwhile.

[phtthp]

Thank you very much for your prompt response, autolycus. Much appreciated. Thank you.

[autolycus]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127496\" time=\"1705711654\" user_id=\"143605:

To get 6, one has to make the prog works as tasked. But out of the 10 programs which claimed to complete the same tasks assigned, the one that stands out is the one to get 7?
To achieve the level of getting 7, the efficiency and elegance (cleverness and style of writing) of the method employed will make the difference. Something like quantum computing vs classical computing?

The ones that fit the rubric best will get a 7. The grade is independent of other candidates, there is no 'grading on the curve' for the IB. But effective presentation of thoughtful responses is the key — coherent, lucid, well-planned, responds directly to the question or prompt, shows penetrating insight, etc.

It's not so much cleverness and style; more like good design that lays out everything about a complex matter in a simple and obvious way, such that the reader is enlightened. Good preparation for law school, ethics classes, medical school, etc. If you are a programmer, people who have to understand or maintain your code will love you for it.