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    • bbbayB Offline
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      Some suggested last year PSLE was easier and expected a lowering of cut off point for top IP schools: more students score AL4/5/6, top IP schools take in the better 4s and 5s first and result in COP drop to 5. that didn’t quite happened. Should be some form of moderation with challenging questions? Even with 70 RP A level exam, with lesser subjects to study, more time to prepare the remaining 3 H2 subjects, MOE could still apply some form of moderation, like PSLE’s challenging questions, and A level students still will not getting better A results just because lesser subjects to study. I think MOE has to apply some form of moderation else, more A level students getting better results, translate to higher minimum grades requirements for Uni course than now, more complains from parents.

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      • 00skyblue000 Offline
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        Didn’t you said to change igp from AAB to ABB… Isnt that a lower std?


        Is Ok to disagree, but better to offer more. So your own theory is?

        Op asked why from 2025, new changes of 70rp and only pass pw are implemented. Why not apply earlier.
        Just to share my view only.

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        • 00skyblue000 Offline
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          bbbay\" post_id=\"2127541\" time=\"1705743264\" user_id=\"175278:

          Some suggested last year PSLE was easier and expected a lowering of cut off point for top IP schools: more students score AL4/5/6, top IP schools take in the better 4s and 5s first and result in COP drop to 5. that didn’t quite happened. Should be some form of moderation with challenging questions? Even with 70 RP A level exam, with lesser subjects to study, more time to prepare the remaining 3 H2 subjects, translate to better results, MOE could still apply some form of moderation, like those in PSLE, and A level students still will not getting better A results just because lesser subjects to study. I think MOE has to apply some form of moderation else, more A level students getting better results, translate to higher minimum grades requirements for Uni course than now, more complains from parents.
          Do u mean making exam harder? That would defeat the purpose. I seriously don't think so.

          Exactly, if psle exam was easier but cop remain, it can mean supply is more than demand. But there are feedback saying it wasn't easier aa rumoured. So we do not know.

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          • 00skyblue000 Offline
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            Increase in places in uni, may not be distributed even among different courses though. More may be given to tech and sci related. As for Med and Law, hmmm… Hopefully we will get more local doctors so more places given to Med course but I don’t think we need more legal professionals. Just personal view. No offence intended.


            Many smart kids do not want to study medicine. So wasted.

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            • SG_KP1S Offline
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              00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127542\" time=\"1705743510\" user_id=\"143605:

              Didn't you said to change igp from AAB to ABB.... Isnt that a lower std?

              Is Ok to disagree, but better to offer more. So your own theory is?

              Op asked why from 2025, new changes of 70rp and only pass pw are implemented. Why not apply earlier.
              Just to share my view only.
              .

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              • 00skyblue000 Offline
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                SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2127546\" time=\"1705744439\" user_id=\"188234:

                Please try reading it again. The change from AAB to ABB is not talking about RP70. It is talking about what would/could happen if you kept the system the same (as in RP90) and increased the number of available spaces. That's a way to admit more students, if that's what one want to do.

                One wouldn't need to change the A Level from 90 RP to 70 RP to admit more students. If you kept the system the same and simply increased available spaces, some IGPs would change from AAB to ABB (for example, not saying this is a bad thing).

                Have a nice evening.
                Peace.
                U can try reading again too.
                Same system but lower igp, isn't it lower std.

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                • bbbayB Offline
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                  00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127543\" time=\"1705744004\" user_id=\"143605:

                  Do u mean making exam harder? That would defeat the purpose. I seriously don't think so.

                  Exactly, if psle exam was easier but cop remain, it can mean supply is more than demand. But there are feedback saying it wasn't easier aa rumoured. So we do not know.
                  I mean irregardless more or less subjects to study, tougher or easier exams, the number of AAA , AAB,ABB.. will not change. And students will not feel less stress from result pressure. My view on the H1 subject becoming a “interest” subject is to introduce some form of joy learning to lower the temperature a little. Why not remove the H1 subject all together some may suggest? I don’t know. (Edited: I believe a good reason for not removing the H1 subject is to leave it there, for student to experiment study for interest and no grade pressure, and to see for themselves what could be the outcome. If the grade are better than expected, it can then be some revelation, that study can be fun and not at the expense of grade if passion is there)

                  Top IP Schools increase vacancy? Hmm…. As an analogy: Say previously we have 100 slot for Uni medicine, and 900 slots for Uni “others”. Fighting for the 100 Uni medicine slots has been stressful . Now still 100 slots for Uni medicine (for not lowering the standard), new 100 slots for Uni dentistry, new 100 slots for Uni physiotherapist, 900 slots for Uni “others”. I think the increase is in Uni “new niche course” vacancy, not necessarily increase in the sought after Uni medicine? (Edited: yes as what you have shared too: increase places in other course, not necessarily medicine) For those die die must Uni medicine, still same pressure, and those more chill, now they have Uni “other medicine” to try for , so lesser the stress, by knowing not top grades can also get you into other “atas” course?

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                  • SG_KP1S Offline
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                    00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127547\" time=\"1705745065\" user_id=\"143605:

                    Peace.
                    U can try reading again too.
                    Same system but lower igp, isn't it lower std.
                    .

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                    • phtthpP Offline
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                      What’s the purpose or


                      what are some reason(s) behind, why

                      wef this year 2024 JC (1) batch,
                      MOE want (decided) to change

                      A-Level score
                      90 RP into … 70 RP ?


                      RP : Rank points

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                      • 00skyblue000 Offline
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                        We love to read your own theories for more discussion. So many qns and challenges , no offering of theories. I dun report to anyone here. Just sharing my views.


                        IMO, with same system but dropping igp… Isnt igps bluntly how many see which are the sought after courses ? If uni A used to accept 100 students with igp of ABB, in future, we allow 200 students with igp of BBC, what pic does it paint then. This is what u offer earlier , to retain current system but increase intake.

                        Our children are entering these local uni, so we would like them to maintain their reputation too. If current situation allows the change, the change improve our children’s well being, more can enter uni, it’s a win win in my view.

                        Option raise a good qn, why change from 2024 batch onwards. See my earlier post. My kid batch was the first to use new system AL banding for psle too, which many regard as disadvantageous. Is there a point now to ask why dont they start AL one year later? Many of us has moved on and even adapted the new norm. Imo, these are tag to low birth rate, so there is a change of strategy to tackle the future situations.

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