Anglo-Chinese School (Independent)

[autolycus]

Useful data from ACS (International): [ https://www.acsinternational.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/ACS-International-IBDP-2023-Results-Report-Website.pdf ]


\"ACS (International) is pleased to announce that its students have achieved a pass rate of 96.55% and an average score of 35.41 for the IBDP. This average is likely to be revised upwards after the appeal process is completed. 90.8% of students scored above the world average of 30.24 (May figure), and 19.5% of students achieved a score of 40 or more.\"

Only three perfect scores. And you should see what subjects did particularly well, at the end of the document linked.

[lee_yl]

autolycus\" post_id=\"2127922\" time=\"1706105379\" user_id=\"16143:

I think that's an oversimplification because it doesn't at all take into account the subject distribution, nor the peculiar nature of A-level scores (which almost always include GP/PW) as measured against IB scores (all of which include an English Lang/Lit component, for example). I'm entirely sure that the IB has advantages over the SG-Cantab A-levels. I'm equally entirely sure that those A-levels may have some advantages especially in the local arena.

I am not keen to dwell into too much details as we often end up missing the forest for the trees.

For some who think there is no advantage when Singaporeans are pitted against international students, so be it, I don’t need to convince anyone.
I am here to share my experiences.

I have friends whose kids with IB 36-38 pts currently in or have already graduated from overseas med schools recognized by Singapore Medical Council. Something they would not have attained had they taken the A-level route. For this alone, my friends are thankful for the availability of the IB route.

[phtthp]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2127929\" time=\"1706142492\" user_id=\"17023:

I am not keen to dwell into too much details as we often end up missing the forest for the trees.

For some who think there is no advantage when Singaporeans are pitted against international students, so be it, I don’t need to convince anyone.
I am here to share my experiences.

I have friends whose kids with IB 36-38 pts currently in or have already graduated from overseas med schools recognized by Singapore Medical Council. Something they would not have attained had they taken the A-level route. For this alone, my friends are thankful for the availability of the IB route.

Yes.

Like it or not, this is reality.
This is the truth.
Let the truth (facts / reality), speak for itself.


Of course, with IB score 36-38, local uni for Medicine is definitely out of bound for IB ( ACSI + SJI ) Year 6 graduates. But overseas, is a different story.

Minimum 42, for IB : to qualify, for an interview, with local Yong Loo Lin (NUS) medical school.

I used the word, \"qualify\" only.
Never say, can get admitted in.

Why ?

Because
You (IB students) will face very intense \"fierce\" competition, from

1) with so many Junior College applicants from RI / Hwa Chong, other JCs, etc

+

2) applicants coming in from the 5 Polytechnic (Nanyang / Singapore / Ngee Ann / Temasek / Republic) from the Schools of

- Biomedical
- Pharmaceutical
- Applied Chemisty
- Vetinary (if any)
- Biotechnology.

+

3) applicants, from NUS High

4) applicants, from other IB International schools, not under the umbrella control of MOE.

===========================

Minimum 43, for IB : to qualify, for an interview, with Lee Kong Chian (NTU).

Especially more so now, wef this year 2024 JC (1) batch, where 90 RP points have been re-based to ... 70 RP. Even, fiercer, hotter competition, compared to last year, the final batch of 2023 A-level students (born in year 2006), exiting out of 90 RP, the last batch.


While this is happening, standing on the opposite side, so many A-level Junior College students are fighting so hard, for their As.

[lee_yl]

autolycus\" post_id=\"2127926\" time=\"1706113335\" user_id=\"16143:

Useful data from ACS (International): [ https://www.acsinternational.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/ACS-International-IBDP-2023-Results-Report-Website.pdf ]

\"ACS (International) is pleased to announce that its students have achieved a pass rate of 96.55% and an average score of 35.41 for the IBDP. This average is likely to be revised upwards after the appeal process is completed. 90.8% of students scored above the world average of 30.24 (May figure), and 19.5% of students achieved a score of 40 or more.\"

Only three perfect scores. And you should see what subjects did particularly well, at the end of the document linked.

My few friends with kids in various international schools, don’t expect their children to score perfect 45pts.

In fact, they are happy that their kids can score, say, IB38pts to be able to make it to the local Uni. All are thankful that there is an alternate route for their kids, or else they felt that their kids would probably have taken the Poly route joined the workforce before going for further studies.

I don’t know why the need to emphasize “only three perfect scores”. We all know if really want to score 45pts go ACS(I) not ACS International.

[zac's mum]

A side qn: why is it that ACS International is allowed to publish how many perfect scorers it has from its 2023 batch? I thought there was some ban on revealing how many perfect scorers from this batch onwards? Since neither SJI nor ACS Independent reported to the media this statistic in Jan 2024 (when they had always previously done so), i inferred that there was a change in instructions from the top somewhere. MOE or IB itself?

[phtthp]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2127932\" time=\"1706144296\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2127932 time=1706144296 user_id=53606]
A side qn: why is it that ACS International is allowed to publish how many perfect scorers it has from its 2023 batch? I thought there was some ban on revealing how many perfect scorers from this batch onwards? Since neither SJI nor ACS Independent reported to the media this statistic in Jan 2024 (when they had always previously done so), i inferred that there was a change in instructions from the top somewhere. MOE or IB itself?[/quote]

(ACSI + SJI ) IB, these 2 schools although called \"Independent\", still fall under the umbrella control of MOE.

But the other one, ACS \" International \",
not \"Independent\", got nothing to do with MOE (Singapore), at all. They fall under the umbrella of IB International schools. So, they can report the perfect score, if they want to.

[autolycus]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2127931\" time=\"1706143609\" user_id=\"17023:

My few friends with kids in various international schools, don’t expect their children to score perfect 45pts.

In fact, they are happy that their kids can score, say, IB38pts to be able to make it to the local Uni. All are thankful that there is an alternate route for their kids, or else they felt that their kids would probably have taken the Poly route joined the workforce before going for further studies.

I don’t know why the need to emphasize “only three perfect scores”. We all know if really want to score 45pts go ACS(I) not ACS International.

I'm just pointing out that the score range tracks with the intake range. It isn't unexpectedly good nor bad. It is what it is. As for ACS(I), it's not that if you want 45 pts you go to ACS(I): it's if you can get into ACS(I), statistically you must be academically advantaged enough to get 45 pts.

[autolycus]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2127932\" time=\"1706144296\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2127932 time=1706144296 user_id=53606]
A side qn: why is it that ACS International is allowed to publish how many perfect scorers it has from its 2023 batch? I thought there was some ban on revealing how many perfect scorers from this batch onwards? Since neither SJI nor ACS Independent reported to the media this statistic in Jan 2024 (when they had always previously done so), i inferred that there was a change in instructions from the top somewhere. MOE or IB itself?[/quote]

ACS (International) isn't an MOE-system school. SJI (Independent) and ACS (Independent) are.

[autolycus]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2127929\" time=\"1706142492\" user_id=\"17023:

I am not keen to dwell into too much details as we often end up missing the forest for the trees.

For some who think there is no advantage when Singaporeans are pitted against international students, so be it, I don’t need to convince anyone.
I am here to share my experiences.

I have friends whose kids with IB 36-38 pts currently in or have already graduated from overseas med schools recognized by Singapore Medical Council. Something they would not have attained had they taken the A-level route. For this alone, my friends are thankful for the availability of the IB route.

I have no disagreement with any of this, but I do note that it is also not possible to have a forest without trees. I think we do have a duty to share useful experiences, and the wider the range that is shared, the better for everyone.

[bbbay]

The trees we chose to pay attention to, determine the forest we see.