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Re: actuarial science, read that NUS had stopped the intake for this course and only ntu and smu offer this. Any idea why, is it because it’s very niche and thus not enough demand to absorb all the graduates into the insurance industry?
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2134778\" time=\"1717663944\" user_id=\"17023:
Acturial science is very maths-heavy. Is this daughter very keen on maths?
Yes, confirm primary major will be Econs. My suggestion to her is to do Econs paired with finance, pick something evergreen!! Oh ya, my DH likes actuarial science too! -
May be useful for reference:
Jamie Dimon says to get a job at JPMorgan, what you study in college ‘almost doesn’t matter’
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-says-job-jpmorgan-220827006.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACHaKpe2-g3gtTWDSf__vdZCpAWnW7Qb_eSgJE2n13-F4mBuTmN-rGuZ6XBLn_df3s3haD_wuL5c0nzVT9xKH1AoySsB5ISEucKGnhWNnWgCi_mWdUKQmDEe62aZdGKmjMSvgJNC7WEScX_8iTM1ovwWkdjFm_fIOuA5Xm6NvaSt -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2134788\" time=\"1717682505\" user_id=\"48901:
That's true - big organisations will always be on the lookout for good young hires who can think, write, and work, and can possibly be groomed for big roles. They trust their hiring processes, which usually include psychometric tests, interviews, group sessions, etc. If they think a person has the right higher order skills and ability, content can always be learnt on the job or later on. That's for the top group of hires. For specific job roles that need filling, they will of course look for people who can fill them immediately.
May be useful for reference:
Jamie Dimon says to get a job at JPMorgan, what you study in college ‘almost doesn’t matter’
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-says-job-jpmorgan-220827006.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACHaKpe2-g3gtTWDSf__vdZCpAWnW7Qb_eSgJE2n13-F4mBuTmN-rGuZ6XBLn_df3s3haD_wuL5c0nzVT9xKH1AoySsB5ISEucKGnhWNnWgCi_mWdUKQmDEe62aZdGKmjMSvgJNC7WEScX_8iTM1ovwWkdjFm_fIOuA5Xm6NvaSt -
Let the kids pursue the kind of degree that they think they will like rather than which one brings in the most money (ie CS etc).
Actually taking a second major may not be as well regarded as having a balanced portfolio and lots of internships and of cos the class of degree). In finance, connections are important bc generally it is your senior seniors who may land you that first opportunity at a good internship and the rest will follow. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2134792\" time=\"1717719958\" user_id=\"2358:
I also believe that studying what they have interest in is better than just going where the money seems to be. 4 years or 10 years later, the landscape will have changed, and the money may have shifted to some other area anyway. Studying something they have intrinsic interest in will at least make their 4 years more interesting to them, and they are more likely to do well.
Let the kids pursue the kind of degree that they think they will like rather than which one brings in the most money (ie CS etc).
Actually taking a second major may not be as well regarded as having a balanced portfolio and lots of internships and of cos the class of degree). In finance, connections are important bc generally it is your senior seniors who may land you that first opportunity at a good internship and the rest will follow.
I have some reservations about taking 2nd majors (as opposed to a minor) as they could result in students spreading themselves too thin, with less depth. I know that this is completely against the current flow of thinking, but I wonder if some students will regret this in future. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2134793\" time=\"1717721318\" user_id=\"28674:
You are not wrong. Many who did well in A level will opt for double degree and of cos because their RP qualifies. In reality, many dropped along the way bc being good in your single degree plus all those things I mentioned is more impt than 2 separate degrees.
I also believe that studying what they have interest in is better than just going where the money seems to be. 4 years or 10 years later, the landscape will have changed, and the money may have shifted to some other area anyway. Studying something they have intrinsic interest in will at least make their 4 years more interesting to them, and they are more likely to do well.
I have some reservations about taking 2nd majors (as opposed to a minor) as they could result in students spreading themselves too thin, with less depth. I know that this is completely against the current flow of thinking, but I wonder if some students will regret this in future. -
Actually, I feel exhausted for the kids just thinking about how it is a never ending ‘rat race’ to build on the CV and the ‘build competitive advantage’. Whether it be school life academic achievements + CCA + VIA to university life academics + internships + networking.
When do we learn about being content with our choices, that it’s okay not to be climbing or losing out, that it’s okay not to strive for this and that, that it’s okay to take time to build relationships, smell the roses and see the world even if it will come at the expense of academics or career climbing? -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2134795\" time=\"1717724744\" user_id=\"13281:
Agree although very hard NOT to fall into the rat race. After all we all want our kids to be self sufficient, earn comfortably to afford their lifestyle and not leech on us when they graduate from school.
Actually, I feel exhausted for the kids just thinking about how it is a never ending 'rat race' to build on the CV and the 'build competitive advantage'. Whether it be school life academic achievements + CCA + VIA to university life academics + internships + networking.
When do we learn about being content with our choices, that it's okay not to be climbing or losing out, that it's okay not to strive for this and that, that it's okay to take time to build relationships, smell the roses and see the world even if it will come at the expense of academics or career climbing?
Even if parents do not push the kids, the environment will. Those kids who are slightly motivated will want to be ahead of the curve. -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2134795\" time=\"1717724744\" user_id=\"13281:
I think when it becomes constantly exhausting (rather than occasional), when family and social life starts being overly compromised, when going to work becomes a daily drag (rather than occasional), then it's time to dial back. The problem is that some people aren't prepared to do that, or feel that they cannot do that because they feel impelled to reach ever-higher or else they will be a \"loser\". It's a choice the person has to make for himself, if they can withstand the pressure of \"reach for the top\" that Singapore society and some parents impose. I'm not talking about people with very low income that can't make ends meet; for most graduates, they have the choice to live more simply if they are prepared to.
Actually, I feel exhausted for the kids just thinking about how it is a never ending 'rat race' to build on the CV and the 'build competitive advantage'. Whether it be school life academic achievements + CCA + VIA to university life academics + internships + networking.
When do we learn about being content with our choices, that it's okay not to be climbing or losing out, that it's okay not to strive for this and that, that it's okay to take time to build relationships, smell the roses and see the world even if it will come at the expense of academics or career climbing?
My kids are both working now - for one, she doesn't have the energy or personality to climb. We ask her to focus on doing her current job as well as she can, and if she doesn't go far, she will still have a decent salary. We don't ask her to aim high, or necessarily seek promotion, etc. It means she will always have to live within her lower salary, but that is preferable to having her mental health suffer.
For the other, I see that she is still well within her comfort zone despite working quite hard, being exposed to more roles, doing additional training, etc. When she was a student, she did a lot of things - some work-related with CV in mind, others for interest and community service. She learned to turn down things along the way because she knew they weren't her main interest and took up her limited time even when others thought she was crazy to give up those opportunities. She didn't apply for jobs in areas that others were gunning for (finance!) because she wasn't interested and thought the working hours were mad. Instead, she chose to apply for jobs that interested her, and she gets asked \"Why are you working here instead of in ____?\" She learned to prioritise sleep, church, friends! She will probably do less well in society's eyes than many who have poorer academic results than she does. So maybe she won't go as far as someone with greater ambitions, but if she is happier and healthier, we are in no position to complain as that is exactly what we did ourselves.
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