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    PM Lawrence Wong's NDR - Education Portions

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    • lee_ylL Offline
      lee_yl @bbbay
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      @bbbay
      What happened 20 years ago doesn’t mean it’s still the same today as the world is evolving so fast.

      If half of them chose to continue their studies in Singapore Unis and the other half who chose to go overseas uni, upon graduation, most of them still returned to Singapore while those who chose to go back China, joined companies with links to Singapore, that would sound like 99% of her batch still contributed back to SG?

      Don’t think govt ever release statistics on how many PRCs non-bonded scholars who left SG for Ivy League, subsequently return to SG to serve Singapore. Most people I asked around, think it’s impossible for the non-bonded PRCs to want to return to serve us. The best if govt is willing to show us the statistics from 20yrs and do not have this “carry-on” syndrome without a thorough review of the numbers.

      If the event, if they chose not to come back, it’s their choice, since their scholarship is non bonded. But please behave decently, having benefited from our generosity, please stop making unnecessary social media posts to make us look like fools being taken advantage of.

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        @doodbug

        I presumed you are saying AEIS students are good enough to serve our purpose and we do not have to offer scholarships now.

        Scholars are like out of few thousand applicants, pick the top student. AEIS is like out of few thousands applicants, pick 4 at random. The quality will be different. That is likely the reason why we are still keeping the scholarship option.

        I think the lady in the video meant she was the 1st batch SM1 scholar for NUSH. Other schools’ SM1 scholars could be from earlier years.

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          bbbay @lee_yl
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          @lee_yl

          Reason why I shared that 1 video, is to offer a positive view, to offset the negative social media example that you shared. So it’s may not be true it’s all bad. 2nd reason I shared that video is to show using Spore as stepping board to overseas universities may not mean we are at the losing end of the deal. Most of them still come back to settle in Spore. The video may not be conclusive. But it shows the possibilities, just like there will always be possibilities that scholars do not pay back to Spore. Now the question is which groups is prevalence? No official stats, else we will not be discussing it here. A few bad investments plus tens of good investments is still a success to us.

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          • lee_ylL Offline
            lee_yl @bbbay
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            @bbbay

            The lady being interviewed was an invited guest who can’t say much negative stuff otherwise.

            The example I shared earlier was posted in June 2024 on XHS by a SM1 scholar.

            One can’t compare the thinking of PRC scholars 20yrs ago vs those today…

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
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              This post by an ASEAN scholar seems to allude to her fellow scholars not even being from the cream of the crop of their country:

              https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/s/T51JMxypgx

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              • bbbayB Offline
                bbbay @lee_yl
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                @lee_yl

                How many postings of using Spore only as a stepping board are there on XHS?

                Anyway, SM1 scholarship replacement, the Business China’s Spore education scholarship, has a footnote on scholars shall attend Business China’s events. That could be a way of getting some commitments from the scholars

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                • bbbayB Offline
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                  Cost to Singapore per pre tertiary scholar:

                  • Flight tickets: arrival+return+home and back to spore at mid point of study. Total 4 flights. $500x4=$2000
                  • Lodging: $500 per month X 48 months (over 4 yrs study period)= $24000
                  • Allowance: $500 per month X 48 months (over 4 yrs study period)= $24000
                  • Schooling cost: 1 % of the cohort are scholars. Say secondary/JC average class size is 30. 1% of 30 students=0.3. On average there is 1 scholar in every 3 classes. MOE can use existing teaching infrastructure to house the scholars. No additional teaching spending needed on scholars. Schooling cost will be $0.
                  • Settle in allowance. Not sure what it entailed. Put it at $1000

                  Total cost to spore per pre tertiary scholar : $2000+ $24000+$24000+$1000=$51000, over 4 yrs.

                  These few days the buzz is on China new AI model Deepseek. It is said to be as good as US’ ChatGPT and cost $6 million to develop vs ChatGPT’s billion of dollar. And China pull it off under chip/technology sanctions. Many US tech companies’ share prices taken some beatings because of Deepseek.

                  During their 4 years studying in Singapore, friendships will be formed between our children and these PRC scholars. I don’t think our children have the opportunity to befriend the scholars’ parent. And PRC scholars are potential next generation leaders of companies. Even if these scholars do not work in Singapore after they graduated, our children ties with them across the world are valuable networks. Maybe their distributions around the world are better for Singapore as long as our networks with them are strong.

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