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    • A Offline
      Almighty
      last edited by

      Hi all,


      Can anyone help on the following qts:
      1)48% of the pupils go to school by car.50% of those who donot go to school by car are girls.\t\t\t\t
      25% of those who go to school by car are boys. How many percent of the total number of boys\tin the school go to school by car?\t\t
      \t\t\t\t\t
      \t\t\t\t\t\t
      My method:\t\t\t\t\t\t
      \t\t\t\t\t
      \t\t\t\t\t\t
      Boys :Girls\t (Car ---48%) \tBoys : Girls (Not by car -----52%\t)\t\t
      12% : 36% (by car) --------\t26% :26% (Not by car)\t\t

      total number of boys in the school = 12 % + 26% = 38%\t\t\t\t\t\t
      total number of boys in the school go to school by car\t\t\t\t\t\t= 12% / 38% X 100
      \t\t\t\t\t\t= 31 11/19%

      Book answer = 12%\t\t\t\t\t\t
      Can anyone clarify how can it just be 12%\t\t\t\t\t\t

      2)The ratio of number of cars to the number of avns sold in a certain country\t\t\t\t\t\t
      was 3:2 last year. This year. A total of 9600 more vans and cars are sold and there are twice as many vans and thrice as many cars as last year.How many cars are sold this year? \t\t

      \t\t\t\t\t\t
      Last year - cars sold\tThis year cars sold\t\t
      C : V : Total\t\tC : V : Total\t\t
      3 : 2 : 5\t\t\t 9 : 4 : 13\t\t
      \t\t\t\t\t\t
      \t8 units = 9600\t\t\t\t\t
      \t1 unit = 1200\t\t\t\t\t
      \t
      So, we must find for 9 units to find the number of cars sold this year.\t
      \t
      ie., 9 units = 10800 carsBook method\t

      6 units ( 9 - 3) ----- ? 1200 X 6\t
      \t = 7200 cars

      Can anyone clarify why should we do 9 - 3 ???\t


      3)In a ballot school, 60% of the pupils are girls and the rest are boys.
      How many percent more girls than boys are there in the ballet school?\t
      \t
      Girls ---60% \tBoys ----40%
      \t\t\t
      My method : ans : 50%\t
      \t\t\t
      \t20 / 40 X 100% = 50%\t\t
      Work backwards:\t\t\t
      50% X 40% = 20% ie , 40% + 20% = 60% \t\t\t
      \t\t\t
      Book method:\t\t\t
      \t\t\t
      Ans : 20% ie 60 % - 40%\t\t\t
      \t\t\t
      Work backwards:\t\t\t
      20% X 40% = 8% ie., 40% + 8% = 48% not equal to 60%\t
      \t\t\t
      \t\t\t
      My method: interpretating the question as:
      How many percent more girls than boys are there in the ballet school

      Book method : interpretating the question as
      How many percent more girls are there than boys in the ballet school

      Which is right??Can anyone please clarify on this?? :?:

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      • M Offline
        maths6a
        last edited by

        Ist of all which book are you talking about because you only mentioned ‘book’ method?


        Not all books are reliable so have to be careful when using them.

        Qn 1: In my opinion, in order to get the answer given by the ‘book’, the question should be phrased this way:-
        What percentage of the pupils in the school are boys who go to school by car?

        Qn 2: thewords used are not very clear. We could also interpret it as this year total of 13 units = 9600 cars and vans were sold? but number is not even divisible.

        Qn 3: Your answer of 50% is correct. To calculate more than we have to use difference/boys x 100%. We cannot use 60 - 40 = 20 as final answer.

        They are just my opinions.

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        • A Offline
          Almighty
          last edited by

          Hi again,

          One more question:
          http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsdBLer
          a) got the answer : 180Cm
          For b)
          My MEthod
          FOr 1 glued plank ---210 cm
          For 48 planks---? ie., 10080 cm

          Each plank ----450 cm
          ?-----------10 080 cm
          22.4 = 23 planks

          Book method:
          FOr 1 glued plank ---210 cm
          for 450 cm --- 210 cm + 210 cm
          No of wood needed ---- 48 /2 = 24 pieces
          Am i right? If not, can anyone Please explain the book answer for (B)

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            OngMum
            last edited by

            I have two questions that need guidance :-


            1. Edison cycled at a speed of 10m/min while Damien cycled at a speed of 15m/min. Edison started cycling from Sleepy Town and Damien started at the same time from Happy Town. They cycled towards each other. They first met at Point Q and then continued to cycle. Upon reaching their destination, they made a U-turn and continued cycling towards each other again. This time, they met at Point R. The distance between Point Q and Point R was 324m.

            (a) What was the distance between Sleepy Town and Happy Town?
            (b) How long would Edison have cycled when he met Damien at Point R?


            2. 2 identical tins, X and Y, were half filled with paint. Tin X contained only white paint while Tin Y contained only black paint. 1/2 of the white paint in Tin X was poured into Tin Y. After stirring the contents in Tin Y thoroughly, 1/2 of the mixed paint in Tin Y was poured into Tin X. The contents in Tin X ws mixed thoroughly and 1/2 of the mixture was then poured into Tin Y. If 7.2 litres of black paint was in the mixture in Tin X, how much white paint would there be in the mixture in Tin X?

            Thank you. Cheers!

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            • D Offline
              Dharma
              last edited by

              Almighty:
              Hi all,


              Can anyone help on the following qts:
              1)48% of the pupils go to school by car.50% of those who donot go to school by car are girls.\t\t\t\t
              25% of those who go to school by car are boys. How many percent of the total number of boys\tin the school go to school by car?\t\t
              \t\t\t\t\t
              \t\t\t\t\t\t
              My method:\t\t\t\t\t\t
              \t\t\t\t\t
              \t\t\t\t\t\t
              Boys :Girls\t (Car ---48%) \tBoys : Girls (Not by car -----52%\t)\t\t
              12% : 36% (by car) --------\t26% :26% (Not by car)\t\t

              total number of boys in the school = 12 % + 26% = 38%\t\t\t\t\t\t
              total number of boys in the school go to school by car\t\t\t\t\t\t= 12% / 38% X 100
              \t\t\t\t\t\t= 31 11/19%

              Book answer = 12%\t\t\t\t\t\t
              Can anyone clarify how can it just be 12%\t\t\t\t\t\t

              2)The ratio of number of cars to the number of avns sold in a certain country\t\t\t\t\t\t
              was 3:2 last year. This year. A total of 9600 more vans and cars are sold and there are twice as many vans and thrice as many cars as last year.How many cars are sold this year? \t\t

              \t\t\t\t\t\t
              Last year - cars sold\tThis year cars sold\t\t
              C : V : Total\t\tC : V : Total\t\t
              3 : 2 : 5\t\t\t 9 : 4 : 13\t\t
              \t\t\t\t\t\t
              \t8 units = 9600\t\t\t\t\t
              \t1 unit = 1200\t\t\t\t\t
              \t
              So, we must find for 9 units to find the number of cars sold this year.\t
              \t
              ie., 9 units = 10800 carsBook method\t

              6 units ( 9 - 3) ----- ? 1200 X 6\t
              \t = 7200 cars

              Can anyone clarify why should we do 9 - 3 ???\t


              3)In a ballot school, 60% of the pupils are girls and the rest are boys.
              How many percent more girls than boys are there in the ballet school?\t
              \t
              Girls ---60% \tBoys ----40%
              \t\t\t
              My method : ans : 50%\t
              \t\t\t
              \t20 / 40 X 100% = 50%\t\t
              Work backwards:\t\t\t
              50% X 40% = 20% ie , 40% + 20% = 60% \t\t\t
              \t\t\t
              Book method:\t\t\t
              \t\t\t
              Ans : 20% ie 60 % - 40%\t\t\t
              \t\t\t
              Work backwards:\t\t\t
              20% X 40% = 8% ie., 40% + 8% = 48% not equal to 60%\t
              \t\t\t
              \t\t\t
              My method: interpretating the question as:
              How many percent more girls than boys are there in the ballet school

              Book method : interpretating the question as
              How many percent more girls are there than boys in the ballet school

              Which is right??Can anyone please clarify on this?? :?:
              Q1)


              http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsfKTo0


              Q2)

              Last year
              Cars : 3u
              Vans : 2u

              This year
              Cars : 9u
              Vans : 4u

              13u – 5u = 8u = 9600
              1u = 1200

              No. of cars sold this year = 9u = 9 x 1200 = 10800


              Q3)

              Your method is correct

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              • D Offline
                Dharma
                last edited by

                Almighty:
                Hi again,

                One more question:
                http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsdBLer
                a) got the answer : 180Cm
                For b)
                My MEthod
                FOr 1 glued plank ---210 cm
                For 48 planks---? ie., 10080 cm

                Each plank ----450 cm
                ?-----------10 080 cm
                22.4 = 23 planks

                Book method:
                FOr 1 glued plank ---210 cm
                for 450 cm --- 210 cm + 210 cm
                No of wood needed ---- 48 /2 = 24 pieces
                Am i right? If not, can anyone Please explain the book answer for (B)
                1/3 of Y = ¼ of X
                3u = 90cm
                1u = 30cm

                a)\t1 set of glued plank X + Y = 90 + 120 – 30 = 180cm
                b)\tTo make 1 glued plank, Mr Tan needs 120cm length of X + 90cm length of Y
                To make 1 set he needs 210cm length of plank.
                1 length of plank = 4.5m = 450cm
                450cm/210cm = 2.14 ( he gets 2 sets of glued plank)
                So, from 1 length of plank (450cm), Mr Tan is able to make 2 pieces of glued plank.

                If Mr Tan needs 48 pieces of glued plank; he needs to buy 48/2 = 24 pieces of 4.5m length plank.

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                • T Offline
                  tianzhu
                  last edited by

                  Hi

                  Hope this helps.
                  Best wishes.

                  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4878572580_8151c55d50_b.jpg\">

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                  • M Offline
                    Muffins
                    last edited by

                    Hi Tianzhu, by the way, I found these pictures... They are originally from fotolia.... 🙂

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                    • K Offline
                      Kiasu Friend
                      last edited by

                      Muffins:
                      Hi Tianzhu, by the way, I found these pictures... They are originally from fotolia.... 🙂

                      Hi Muffins,

                      I had requested some info from you under the thread on - 'Anglo-Chinese (Independent) IP'. When you can spare time, please visit the thread at -
                      http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=230335#230335 and kindly reply to my queries.

                      Thank you very much for your time.

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                        Dharma
                        last edited by

                        OngMum:
                        I have two questions that need guidance :-


                        1. Edison cycled at a speed of 10m/min while Damien cycled at a speed of 15m/min. Edison started cycling from Sleepy Town and Damien started at the same time from Happy Town. They cycled towards each other. They first met at Point Q and then continued to cycle. Upon reaching their destination, they made a U-turn and continued cycling towards each other again. This time, they met at Point R. The distance between Point Q and Point R was 324m.

                        (a) What was the distance between Sleepy Town and Happy Town?
                        (b) How long would Edison have cycled when he met Damien at Point R?


                        2. 2 identical tins, X and Y, were half filled with paint. Tin X contained only white paint while Tin Y contained only black paint. 1/2 of the white paint in Tin X was poured into Tin Y. After stirring the contents in Tin Y thoroughly, 1/2 of the mixed paint in Tin Y was poured into Tin X. The contents in Tin X ws mixed thoroughly and 1/2 of the mixture was then poured into Tin Y. If 7.2 litres of black paint was in the mixture in Tin X, how much white paint would there be in the mixture in Tin X?

                        Thank you. Cheers!
                        Q1)
                        Time is constant - when Edison met Damien
                        Speed ratio => Edison : Damien = 2 : 3
                        Distance ratio => Edison : Damien = 2 : 3

                        When Edison met Damien at Point Q, Edison travelled a distance of 2u while Damien travelled a distance of 3u.
                        So, the distance between Sleepy Town and Happy Town is 5u.
                        When Edison and Damien met for the next time at Point R; Edison travelled a distance of 4u while Damien travelled a distance of 6u.

                        a) Distance between Point Q and R = 2u
                        2u = 324m

                        Distance between Sleepy Town and Happy Town = 5u = ( 324/2 x 5 ) = 810m

                        Q2)
                        At first
                        Tin X : 100u
                        Tin Y : 100p

                        ½ of white paint in Tin X poured into Tin Y
                        Tin X : 100u – 50u = 50u
                        Tin Y : 100p + 50u

                        ½ of mixture in Tin Y poured into Tin X
                        Tin X : 50u + ( 50p + 25u) = 75u + 50p
                        Tin Y : 50p + 25u


                        ½ of mixture in Tin X poured into Tin Y
                        Tin X : 37.5u + 25p
                        Tin Y : ( 50p + 25u ) + 37.5u + 25p = 62.5u + 75p

                        Tin Y => 25p = 7.2l
                        Amt of black paint at first =100p = 28.8l

                        Amt of white paint at first =100u = 28.8l
                        Amt of white paint left in Tin X = 37.5u = 10.8l

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