7 New IP schools

[verykiasu2010]

DadOfGirl:

Affliation will have to go sooner or later for these IP schools. RGS has no affliation to RGP .... so should be for SCGS

RGS and RGPS and RI are government schools. No affiliation is a given.

Not so easy when you are talking about schools set up by the community & religious organisations decades ago. They get them to comply with MOE and national policy is already a big trade off

[Pen88n]

mommyNg:

Pen88n:

[quote=\"keroppi\"]
but still got affiliation mah. We are looking at long term schooling now - 12 years - so can invest in a property there.

Ya, if can get into primary sch with affiliated sec offering IP, it is then a bonus and kid can move smoothly to sec with possibility of joining IP after PSLE or sec 1 - 3. So for those IP sec with affiliated pri, the pri sch will become \"hot cakes\" for P1 registration. Property 1km around that area will become \"hot cakes\" too. Ya, parents should go grab those properties for the sake of your children and grand children...... :lol:

Well, I think these new IPs schools would offer both IP and non-IP classes. For example, if MOE says the COP for IP class is 250, then, those who score more than 250 (with or without affiliation) will be eligible for the IP class, while the rest (e.g. those > 220 but < 250) will be in the normal O level class. So, even if one get into primary sch with affiliation sch offering IP, there is no guarantee that the kid can move smoothly to IP program in sec.

The current batch of IP schools, say RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH would still command a higher value & demand, cos' besides the reputation, all the classes (at least in Sec 1, I think) are IP, and if I'm not wrong, only if one did really badly that one would be put into a normal O level class at a later time (perhaps 1-2 classes only)??[/quote]It's true there is still cut-off point for IP and the kid need to meet the PSLE cut-off for IP in sec. However, if the kid did not meet the COP, he can still go to the affiliated sec and in sec 1-2, should he do well, he can still move to the IP arm of the affiliated sec. Having an affiliated sec, and having the opportunity to enter the affiliated sec IP either via PSLE / lower sec route itself is a huge bonus - that's what I see!

[jtoh]

I’m looking at the list of 11 IP schools. Noticed that SOTA is NOT an IP school although they offer the IB programme. Anyone have any idea?

[keroppi]

Pen88n:

mommyNg:

[quote=\"Pen88n\"]
Ya, if can get into primary sch with affiliated sec offering IP, it is then a bonus and kid can move smoothly to sec with possibility of joining IP after PSLE or sec 1 - 3. So for those IP sec with affiliated pri, the pri sch will become \"hot cakes\" for P1 registration. Property 1km around that area will become \"hot cakes\" too. Ya, parents should go grab those properties for the sake of your children and grand children...... :lol:

Well, I think these new IPs schools would offer both IP and non-IP classes. For example, if MOE says the COP for IP class is 250, then, those who score more than 250 (with or without affiliation) will be eligible for the IP class, while the rest (e.g. those > 220 but < 250) will be in the normal O level class. So, even if one get into primary sch with affiliation sch offering IP, there is no guarantee that the kid can move smoothly to IP program in sec.

The current batch of IP schools, say RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH would still command a higher value & demand, cos' besides the reputation, all the classes (at least in Sec 1, I think) are IP, and if I'm not wrong, only if one did really badly that one would be put into a normal O level class at a later time (perhaps 1-2 classes only)??

It's true there is still cut-off point for IP and the kid need to meet the PSLE cut-off for IP in sec. However, if the kid did not meet the COP, he can still go to the affiliated sec and in sec 1-2, should he do well, he can still move to the IP arm of the affiliated sec. Having an affiliated sec, and having the opportunity to enter the affiliated sec IP either via PSLE / lower sec route itself is a huge bonus - that's what I see![/quote]And for most parents, having an affiliated IP Sec school is like a safety net. kiasu mentality. If sway sway your kid happen to do badly for PSLE, there's still a recourse and a way to redeem oneself further down the academic path ..... esp when the school offers dual track.

[dunnoleh]

Pen88n:

.... and having the opportunity to enter the affiliated sec IP either via PSLE / lower sec route itself is a huge bonus - that's what I see!

yes, it certainly is. Having the opportunity to switch between IP/Express/Normal if available at more stages along the way is a huge plus in the system. Probably an administrative nightmare, but it could change a child's entire future. It also takes some anxiety out of our \"you have 1 chance\" mindset imposed on our children.

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

I'm looking at the list of 11 IP schools. Noticed that SOTA is NOT an IP school although they offer the IB programme. Anyone have any idea?

SOTA is a special school, much like School of the Sports

so that is a different category altogether

heard that some SOTA students wanted to transfer back to normal sec schools and would have to sit for entrance test, take an extra year etc

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

I'm looking at the list of 11 IP schools. Noticed that SOTA is NOT an IP school although they offer the IB programme. Anyone have any idea?

SOTA is a special school, much like School of the Sports

so that is a different category altogether

heard that some SOTA students wanted to transfer back to normal sec schools and would have to sit for entrance test, take an extra year etc

I understand that it's categorized as a Special Independent School, as are Sports School, SST and NUSH. I'm wondering why NUSH is classified as IP and yet not SOTA. I'm thinking perhaps it's not a purely academic school unlike NUSH?

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]I'm looking at the list of 11 IP schools. Noticed that SOTA is NOT an IP school although they offer the IB programme. Anyone have any idea?

SOTA is a special school, much like School of the Sports

so that is a different category altogether

heard that some SOTA students wanted to transfer back to normal sec schools and would have to sit for entrance test, take an extra year etc

I understand that it's categorized as a Special Independent School, as are Sports School, SST and NUSH. I'm wondering why NUSH is classified as IP and yet not SOTA. I'm thinking perhaps it's not a purely academic school unlike NUSH?[/quote]you are right. it is not an academic school. nush is.

[PowerPuff Mum]

verykiasu2010:

why the sudden opening of \"floodgate\" - 7 new IP schools overnite while some of the well known schools have been applying applying and being told the door is shut ?


why don't the MOE spell out all the requirements of an IP school and if any school think they are ready, they can apply, and subject to MOE audit, holding period to observe that the requirements are really met and operating, then approve that application for IP ? instead of a sudden floodgate ?

can't help the public's view of it being reactionary instead of a steady policy process that could be expected to function regardless of ......

I totally agree with VK2010. It seems to be a reactive move. Of cos we see value in the IP program and obviously, this will allow the best students to shine and do well. BUt even if we want to implement this, why a sudden 7 new IP schools..just seems like peace offerings to me.

The problem with the equal MT weightage was self created. I see so many bright students miss out on IP due as they are weak in MT and therefore disadvantaged by 25%. Most homes even with both Chinese parents are English speaking and have problems with MT..what more with families that are bi-racial..this is very common these days.

This new move to increase 7 new IP schools will help these students but I still feel this is an after thought. I hope they have worked out all the kinks and not create new problems as a result of this.

[verykiasu2010]

if there is any problem with the new 7 IP schools, it is still a good problem, better than no problem


as for MT weightage issue, I still maintain my stand that if you want fairness and equitability, then it has to be of equal weightage for every subject

C’mon, every student bound to have some weakness in some subject areas; and in the totality of things, equal weightage for each subject ensures a level playing field