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      tanbh
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      zacharykieran:
      tanbh:



      unlike other schools like SNGS who had to somehow join other branded JC under separate brand NAME and join in other top brand JC and under different cultural environment due to NO CHOICE ... hence i am also saying: SNGS/CHS and SCGS dont really benefit as much through this feed into new JC plan.... because their students are already doing the SAME THING NOW/PREVIOUSLY (as you rightly pointed out) ! so i felt it is unjust to these schools and they should have tried other better ways of preserving the school culture and brand of these schools..... do read my earlier posts

      Okay maybe it is the use of the passive voice in the media that makes it appear like these kids are being thrown into a totally nameless and brandless abyss of a JC.

      But that is not the case! Whatever unique brand of education these 3 institutions have is being transferred to this new school, simply because of the fact that the leadership of these 3 schools will be playing a part in the leadership of this new school!

      And this new arrangement is not the same as the status quo. (Kids joining a top brand JC) They DON'T HAVE A CHOICE in the curriculum or programmes of XX TOP BRAND JC because of the fact that they aren't affiliated. But now, these schools HAVE A CHOICE in what programmes the new school will have, because of the fact that THEY DESIGNED IT. For instance, if one of the schools places particular emphasis on community service, it will be transferred to the new school. Now do you not agree this will benefit the students of these 3 schools?

      I see you have really strong concerns about the viability of this merger. Perhaps you should consider writing a letter to ST Forum/principals of these 3 schools, then you can receive the official reply on the rationale behind such a decision. (Do publish the official reply here if you do send a letter, thanks)

      i rather agree leh on your current points on curriculum , but to me, curriculum is just 1 aspect, i very much prefer them to cling on to their brand name and school culture. letter... no lah, leave it to the old boys and gals and their alumni group...

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        tanbh
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        CJS:
        Daddy 😧

        :celebrate: :celebrate:

        Now I remember why I used to get confused on how to pronounce the \"IP MAN\" movie...
        :lol: :lol: :lol:

        Yah, my dh who is not a Cantonese pronounced it as \" I P man\". I was :? and told him it should be pronounced as Cantonese \"Yip Mun\" since it is a HK movie. 😄

        true... Canto pronounced/SPELLED it as Yip or Ip... for 叶

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          WeiHan
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          I have read everybody’s posts. There are basically not many points. Your point is just basically the three schools is not a good mix and they cannot continue their unique culture. To avoid long winded post, I did not requote all the posts but don’t mean that I have not read them.


          Another new point. Why can’t we see that all three schools have their share of culture continuation and brand name in the new JC.

          I see that you are very concerned about name. Actually…I think even if RJC is called Bishan JC but still affiliated to RI, they will still continue to excel. The same reasoning goes to Hwa Chong, even if they are called Bukit Timah JC. The same goes to the new Catholic Nicks Chinese Gals JC. It depends on how well these feeder schools students perform. Unless you are arguing that bcos of the "culture continuation" and "brand name" "problem, these students will all quit at sec 4 to join other JCs.

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            kiaaik
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            actually i am not worried about the chs-sng-scgs model…i am more worried about dunman high school and river valley high school model…they may be able to produce academically brilliant students but i think a lack in numbers (of students) made them become more like 70s pre-u classes rather than jc like ri and hci…something seem to be lacking…

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              Daddy D
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              Skipped to the last page... nothing to see... :celebrate:

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                WeiHan
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                kiaaik:
                actually i am not worried about the chs-sng-scgs model....i am more worried about dunman high school and river valley high school model...they may be able to produce academically brilliant students but i think a lack in numbers (of students) made them become more like 70s pre-u classes rather than jc like ri and hci....something seem to be lacking...

                But what exactly is wrong with smaller number of students? As far as you may be able to state some disadvantages, I can also come out with a corresponding advantage.

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                  MotherHen
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                  tanbh:
                  zacharykieran:

                  [quote=\"tanbh\"]

                  unlike other schools like SNGS who had to somehow join other branded JC under separate brand NAME and join in other top brand JC and under different cultural environment due to NO CHOICE ... hence i am also saying: SNGS/CHS and SCGS dont really benefit as much through this feed into new JC plan.... because their students are already doing the SAME THING NOW/PREVIOUSLY (as you rightly pointed out) ! so i felt it is unjust to these schools and they should have tried other better ways of preserving the school culture and brand of these schools..... do read my earlier posts

                  Okay maybe it is the use of the passive voice in the media that makes it appear like these kids are being thrown into a totally nameless and brandless abyss of a JC.

                  But that is not the case! Whatever unique brand of education these 3 institutions have is being transferred to this new school, simply because of the fact that the leadership of these 3 schools will be playing a part in the leadership of this new school!

                  And this new arrangement is not the same as the status quo. (Kids joining a top brand JC) They DON'T HAVE A CHOICE in the curriculum or programmes of XX TOP BRAND JC because of the fact that they aren't affiliated. But now, these schools HAVE A CHOICE in what programmes the new school will have, because of the fact that THEY DESIGNED IT. For instance, if one of the schools places particular emphasis on community service, it will be transferred to the new school. Now do you not agree this will benefit the students of these 3 schools?

                  I see you have really strong concerns about the viability of this merger. Perhaps you should consider writing a letter to ST Forum/principals of these 3 schools, then you can receive the official reply on the rationale behind such a decision. (Do publish the official reply here if you do send a letter, thanks)

                  i rather agree leh on your current points on curriculum , but to me, curriculum is just 1 aspect, i very much prefer them to cling on to their brand name and school culture. letter... no lah, leave it to the old boys and gals and their alumni group...[/quote]I tend to agree. No doubt academic excellence & curriculum are important, to me school culture is equally if not more important. Realistically CHS-SNGS do have a different school culture/background vs SCGS. I think there are many parents who send their children to a certain school precisely bcos of the school culture. There is also no doubt that the unique culture of each school will be diluted when all's blended together. At the end of the day, feeder schools do contribute to the shaping of the school culture and when it's so diverse, I dun know.... It's just different from existing models when the feeder schools are somewhat connected/affiliated and progress to an institution with dominant/common culture. Personally, I will be really sad to see another academically excellent government JC, tho only time will tell.[/u]

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                    dunnoleh
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                    MotherHen:
                    ...I tend to agree. No doubt academic excellence & curriculum are important, to me school culture is equally if not more important. Realistically CHS-SNGS do have a different school culture/background vs SCGS. I think there are many parents who send their children to a certain school precisely bcos of the school culture. There is also no doubt that the unique culture of each school will be diluted when all's blended together. At the end of the day, feeder schools do contribute to the shaping of the school culture and when it's so diverse, I dun know.... It's just different from existing models when the feeder schools are somewhat connected/affiliated and progress to an institution with dominant/common culture. Personally, I will be really sad to see another academically excellent government JC, tho only time will tell.[/u]
                    today...

                    CHS/SNGS/SCGS > up to \"O\" levels (own culture) > go to various JCs (other cultures)

                    tomorrow...
                    CHS/SNGS/SCGS > up to year 4 (own culture) > go to Catholic Nick Chinese Gals JC (mixed but contain a bit of own culture)

                    nothing is lost, right? :?

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                      ycpang
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                      Agree. All are "Singapore culture". So what is the problem?

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                        happymum8
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                        Quote from VS website

                        Principal's note
                        8 September 2010

                        Dear Parents, Old Boys and Victorians,

                        Victoria School to offer the IP in 2012

                        As announced by the Ministry of Education, Victoria School will offer the Integrated Programme (IP) in 2012 at the Sec 1 level. Similarly, Cedar Girls' Secondary School will do likewise. Students on the IP will be on the thru-train to offer the A level at Victoria Junior College.

                        VS will continue to offer the O level programme. As the affliated school to VJC, VS students will continue to have access to VJC via the JC admission based on their O level results.

                        Attached is a list of FAQs for reference to questions you might have on the IP.
                        Click here to view/download the FAQs.

                        Nil Sine Labore.

                        Low Eng Teong, Principal

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