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    Q&A - P3 Math

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      small
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      tianzhu:
      small:

      Much appreciated if someone can help on this question, thanks.


      P4 Question:
      There were 54 cars and bicycles in a car park. Someone removed 1 wheel each from 4 bicycles. As a result, there were 180 wheels left. How many cars were there? (5 marks)
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      Hi small

      Use Make a Supposition, you‘ll get 38 cars and 16 bicycles.

      Suppose there are 54 cars, you’ll have 216 wheels

      216 - 184 ----32 (add 4 to 180 to account for 4 removed bicycle wheels)
      32/2 ---- 16 bicycles
      54 – 16 ---- 38 cars

      Check
      38 *4 --- 152
      16*2 ---32
      Total --- 184
      184 - 4 ---180

      Best wishes


      Hi tianzhu, many thanks for your time. :celebrate:

      I was trying to figure out how you get this 'add 4 to 180 to account for 4 removed bicycle wheels', Is it because of we supposed there are 16 bicycles? I will need some explanation to convince my son otherwise my son sure will ask me why ' 4' . :oops:
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        tianzhu
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        small:

        I was trying to figure out how you get this 'add 4 to 180 to account for 4 removed bicycle wheels', Is it because of we supposed there are 16 bicycles? I will need some explanation to convince my son otherwise my son sure will ask me why ' 4' . :oops:
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        Hi small

        Good Morning.

        You're welcome.

        The hint is from here, Someone removed 1 wheel each from 4 bicycles..

        4 wheels are removed, so we have to add 4 to 180 to account for the removal when we are using the heuristics, Make a Supposition.

        This question is tweaked as compared to the usual question which one is more familiar.

        Consider this

        There were 54 cars and bicycles in a car park. Mary noticed they had 180 wheels. How many cars were there?

        This is another question with a tweak.

        1) There are 85 plates of fried noodle for 80 people. Each adult eats 2 plates of fried noodle and every three children share 1 plate of fried noodle. How many adults and children are there?

        Best wishes

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          yeonee
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          Thank you.

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            Vanilla Cake
            last edited by

            tianzhu:
            The hint is from here, Someone removed 1 wheel each from 4 bicycles..


            4 wheels are removed, so we have to add 4 to 180 to account for the removal when we are using the heuristics, Make a Supposition.

            This question is tweaked as compared to the usual question which one is more familiar.

            Consider this

            There were 54 cars and bicycles in a car park. Mary noticed they had 180 wheels. How many cars were there?

            This is another question with a tweak.

            1) There are 85 plates of fried noodle for 80 people. Each adult eats 2 plates of fried noodle and every three children share 1 plate of fried noodle. How many adults and children are there?
            Another tweaked question that involves percentage (for P5 mainstream & above):

            A farm has 40% more chickens than goats.Given that the chickens and goats have a total of 442 legs, find the number of chickens in the farm.

            VC's mum

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              Yu Xuan
              last edited by

              small:
              Much appreciated if someone can help on this question, thanks.


              P4 Question:
              There were 54 cars and bicycles in a car park. Someone removed 1 wheel each from 4 bicycles. As a result, there were 180 wheels left. How many cars were there? (5 marks)
              [/u]
              May I 'busy-body' again...

              By adding 4 wheels to the 180 wheels, we will have the logically 'actual' no. of wheels;

              180 + 4 = 184
              54 * 2 = 108
              184 - 108 = 76
              76 / 2 = 38 (Cars)

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                peggy
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                Can anyone help me with this P4 Qtn ?


                Annie has an amount of cookies less than 60. If she packs in a bag of 5, there’ll be 2 left. But if she packs in a bag of 7, she’ll be short of 3. How many cookies does she has ?

                Help !!!

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                  mrswongtuition
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                  peggy:
                  Can anyone help me with this P4 Qtn ?


                  Annie has an amount of cookies less than 60. If she packs in a bag of 5, there'll be 2 left. But if she packs in a bag of 7, she'll be short of 3. How many cookies does she has ?

                  Help !!!
                  Multiples of 5 + 2 left:
                  7, 12, 17, 22, 27, 32, 37, 42, 47, 52, 57

                  Multiples of 7 - 3 short:
                  4, 11, 18, 25, 32, 39, 46, 53, 60


                  Common: 32

                  She has 32 cookies.

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                    yeonee
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                    peggy:
                    Can anyone help me with this P4 Qtn ?


                    Annie has an amount of cookies less than 60. If she packs in a bag of 5, there'll be 2 left. But if she packs in a bag of 7, she'll be short of 3. How many cookies does she has ?

                    Help !!!
                    Hi, I learn from somewhere you can apply the following method:-

                    Multiple of 5
                    5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55
                    (+2)
                    7,12,17,22,27,32,37,42,47,52,57

                    Multiple of 7
                    7,14,21,28,35,42,49,56,63
                    (-3)
                    4,11,18,25,32,39,46,53,60

                    The answer is 32 cookies

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                      peggy
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                      yeonee,


                      Thank you so much for sharing !!
                      And the explanation is very clear.

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                        yeonee
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                        peggy:
                        yeonee,


                        Thank you so much for sharing !!
                        And the explanation is very clear.
                        You are welcome.

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