Teachers' Violence
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markfch:
On Monday, the CL teacher gave out this week's CL tingxie list. My boy told me he put his copy on the desk. Then he walked away. When he returned to his desk, the list was nowhere to be found. He went back to the CL teacher and told her (I deduced he did not request or ask) to give him another copy. The teacher told him to go back to his seat and did not give him a copy.
So you think it is alright if your own kid is caught sleeping in class and then get hit by a duster? And everyone in the class starts laughing at him/her covered in chalk?Daddy
Hmm... am I the odd one out here?
During my time, I remember my Pri sch teacher used to throw the chalk duster across the classroom to hit the mischievious kid. Pretty accurate somemore... and funny to see the kid covered in chalk!
I think most parents are just too overly-protective towards kids.
The way I interpret the article... the parent seems to condone the kid sleeping in class...
Shld I be angry with the teacher? Of course. But I also need to be angry with my boy first. If he had explained properly why the need and asked politely from the teacher, maybe the teacher wld not be so nasty.
If my boy slept in class and got punished, I wld not complain abt the teacher. He needs to face the consequences esp if he chose to sleep late the previous night. But if the punishment resulted in bodily hurt, then it is another issue that I wld take up with the teacher. -
markfch:
Hmm... why not? I think it's ok to rough up a little for boys... but not ok for girls.
So you think it is alright if your own kid is caught sleeping in class and then get hit by a duster? And everyone in the class starts laughing at him/her covered in chalk?Daddy
Hmm... am I the odd one out here?
During my time, I remember my Pri sch teacher used to throw the chalk duster across the classroom to hit the mischievious kid. Pretty accurate somemore... and funny to see the kid covered in chalk!
I think most parents are just too overly-protective towards kids.
The way I interpret the article... the parent seems to condone the kid sleeping in class...
I will scold the boy for sleeping in class as well, so that he knows he should not do that in class again.
If you worry about the little kid's pride over such incident... I think I rather teach him more life skills to get over these... than see him suffer more later in teenage/adult life. -
Daddy
Hmm... why not? I think it's ok to rough up a little for boys... but not ok for girls.
Why the different treatment? Girls also need to learn essential life skills to toughen themselves
esp now so many going single
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Jennifer:
He needs to face the consequences esp if he chose to sleep late the previous night. But if the punishment resulted in bodily hurt, then it is another issue that I wld take up with the teacher.
I agree... as long don't punish till see blood... I think it's ok.
But I think my wife will disagree me on this... she's the ζ ζ―
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Jennifer:
Err... cos' I'm the ζ ηΆ! haha!Daddy
Hmm... why not? I think it's ok to rough up a little for boys... but not ok for girls.
Why the different treatment? Girls also need to learn essential life skills to toughen themselves esp now so many going single
I think it's kinda understood not to use physical force on girls bah... -
LKVM:
Orhh... u win liao lor
I dont agree with your point... sleeping is not so big crime that the kid should be hit by a duster :shock:
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Daddy
Err... cos' I'm the ζ ηΆ! haha!Jennifer:
[quote=\"Daddy D\"]Hmm... why not? I think it's ok to rough up a little for boys... but not ok for girls.
Why the different treatment? Girls also need to learn essential life skills to toughen themselves esp now so many going single
I think it's kinda understood not to use physical force on girls bah...[/quote]That's make me the tigress
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markfch:
Yes. If it comes to that then yes.
So you think it is alright if your own kid is caught sleeping in class and then get hit by a duster? And everyone in the class starts laughing at him/her covered in chalk?Daddy
Hmm... am I the odd one out here?
During my time, I remember my Pri sch teacher used to throw the chalk duster across the classroom to hit the mischievious kid. Pretty accurate somemore... and funny to see the kid covered in chalk!
I think most parents are just too overly-protective towards kids.
The way I interpret the article... the parent seems to condone the kid sleeping in class...
I cant read chinese, so i dont know the article. i dont condone physical voilence never caned my kids ever , not even my pigheaded defiant DD. But i shout at her and i feel that is a worser thing to do.
the teachers should exercise restraint, not get emotional , but a duster on the head with the teacher remaining in control is ok. A duster on ur head is embarassing not hurting. Yes I would be hurt since my child felt insulted .
But the question is why was my child sleeping in the class. Why did i as a parent not ensure that my child gets enough rest? Even if the child did not sleep in class, i ask what would he be learning being so sleepy? Why even send him to school?
To me sufficient sleep is very important - all the more for a child. I really feel strongly about this. When i hear from my dd that some in her just get 6-7 hrs sleep, i really feel this is child abuse, that parents inflict unintentionally.
Instead of going to school to sleep, i will let my child sleep longer , write email to teacher giving some excuse for being late. I have done this for my DD. In fact DD goes to bed 9:30 , latest by 10 90% of the days and she is in P6 this yr. So its not all talk , i do practice.
Now after blabbering, i realise somewhat :offtopic: solli
My take is - for a teacher
no losing temper and resorting to voilence / physical punishment.
Being in control, and doling out small physical punishment (which the pupils are aware of) is ok. -
I think I also tough love. I would want to know what my kid did wrong and address it - teacher part can handle separately.
Of course, if teacher use kids as shooting target, itβs not good. But then what I get out of the article is that the parents are condoning what the boy did. If heβs sleepy becos he was nursing his sick grandparent (going very cantonese drama here) or doing homework becos there is way too much, then of course, can understand and condone (and find way out). If heβs sleepy becos he play too much and refuse to go to bed on time, then parents should say you good boy and bad bad teacher?
There are both sides to the coin. While parents should support the child, I think itβs more important to prepare them for society. -
Sun_2010:
Yeah.. totally agree.
My take is - for a teacher
no losing temper and resorting to voilence / physical punishment.
Being in control, and doling out small physical punishment (which the pupils are aware of) is ok.
Punishment in a controlled manner... not from emotional outburst.
Applies to parents too
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