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    O-Level Additional Math

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    • B Offline
      benorito
      last edited by

      Hi,


      Can you kindly help with this question :
      Given that 280 and a number y have a LCM of 6160 and a HCF of 40, find the number y.

      Thanks in advance!

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        iFruit
        last edited by

        benorito:
        Hi,


        Can you kindly help with this question :
        Given that 280 and a number y have a LCM of 6160 and a HCF of 40, find the number y.

        Thanks in advance!
        You need to know that product of two numbers = HCF x LCM of those two numbers


        280 * y = 6160 * 40

        y = (6160 * 40)/280 = 880

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          benorito
          last edited by

          iFruit:


          You need to know that product of two numbers = HCF x LCM of those two numbers


          280 * y = 6160 * 40

          y = (6160 * 40)/280 = 880
          Thank you !!

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            SKT
            last edited by

            Hi,

            Given that x and y satisfy the simultaneous equations
            mx + (m-1)y = 10,
            (m-2)x + 3my = 20.

            (a) If the equations have no unique solution, find the values of m.
            (b) If the equations have no solutions, find the value of m.

            TIA.

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              iFruit
              last edited by

              SKT:
              Hi,

              Given that x and y satisfy the simultaneous equations
              mx + (m-1)y = 10,
              (m-2)x + 3my = 20.

              (a) If the equations have no unique solution, find the values of m.
              (b) If the equations have no solutions, find the value of m.

              TIA.
              Using Cramer’s rule

              x = [30m - 20(m-1)]/ [3m² – (m² -3m +2)] = (10m+20)/ (2m² + 3m -2)

              y = [20m -10(m-2)] / (2m² + 3m -2) = (10m+20)/ (2m² + 3m -2)


              Recall that equation has
              1) infinite solutions when (10m+20) = 0 and (2m²+ 3m -2)=0
              2) No solutions when (10m+20) # 0 and (2m² + 3m -2)=0

              (2m² + 3m -2)= (2m-1)(m+2) =0----> m=-2 or m=1/2


              When m=-2, 10m+20 = 0,
              when m=1/2, 10m+20 = 25


              So infinite solutions when m=-2
              No solutions when m=1/2

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                atutor2001
                last edited by

                SKT:
                Hi,

                Given that x and y satisfy the simultaneous equations
                mx + (m-1)y = 10,
                (m-2)x + 3my = 20.

                (a) If the equations have no unique solution, find the values of m.
                (b) If the equations have no solutions, find the value of m.

                TIA.
                Below is an ELEMENTARY approach

                For linear equation : y = mx +c

                (a) 2 lines will have no unique solution if they are the same line i.e. both lines have the same gradient, m and the same y-intercept, c

                mx + (m-1)y = 10 that is: y = -mx/(m-1) +10/(m-1)
                (m-2)x + 3my = 20 that is: y = -(m-2)/(3m) + 20/(3m)

                If the gradients are the same :

                -mx/(m-1) = -(m-2)/(3m)
                3m² = m²-2m-m+2
                2m²+3m-2 = 0
                (2m-1)(m+2) = 0
                m = 1/2 or -2

                If the y-intercepts are the same :

                10/(m-1) = 20/(3m)
                30m = 20m - 20
                m = -2

                Therefore, there is no unique solution if m = -2

                (b) 2 lines will have no solution if they are parallel i.e. same gradient but different y-intercept.

                Therefore, there is no solution if m = 1/2

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                  SKT
                  last edited by

                  Hi,


                  However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

                  TIA

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                    iFruit
                    last edited by

                    SKT:
                    Hi,


                    However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

                    TIA
                    That is right.

                    No Unique solution means, either no solution or infinite solutions.

                    when m=-2, there are infinite solutions (when it's the same line)

                    so both 1/2 and -2 are answers for (a).

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                      atutor2001
                      last edited by

                      SKT:
                      Hi,


                      However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

                      TIA
                      NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
                      So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

                      NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
                      So answer for (b) is 1/2

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                        iFruit
                        last edited by

                        atutor2001:
                        SKT:

                        Hi,


                        However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

                        TIA

                        NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
                        So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

                        NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
                        So answer for (b) is 1/2

                        A system of linear equations will have one of the three possible types of solutions

                        1) Unique solution
                        2) Infinite solutions
                        3) no solution

                        when you say \"no unique solution\" (the opposite of 1 in the list ) it should cover the cases of both 2 and 3 above.

                        so for (a) in the question, both 1/2 and -2 are the answers, IMHO.

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