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      iFruit
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      SKT:
      Hi,


      However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

      TIA
      That is right.

      No Unique solution means, either no solution or infinite solutions.

      when m=-2, there are infinite solutions (when it's the same line)

      so both 1/2 and -2 are answers for (a).

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        atutor2001
        last edited by

        SKT:
        Hi,


        However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

        TIA
        NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
        So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

        NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
        So answer for (b) is 1/2

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          iFruit
          last edited by

          atutor2001:
          SKT:

          Hi,


          However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

          TIA

          NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
          So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

          NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
          So answer for (b) is 1/2

          A system of linear equations will have one of the three possible types of solutions

          1) Unique solution
          2) Infinite solutions
          3) no solution

          when you say \"no unique solution\" (the opposite of 1 in the list ) it should cover the cases of both 2 and 3 above.

          so for (a) in the question, both 1/2 and -2 are the answers, IMHO.

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            atutor2001
            last edited by

            iFruit:
            atutor2001:

            [quote=\"SKT\"]Hi,


            However, the answer provided for (a) is 1/2, -2, wonder what's the meaning of \"no unique solution\". Are the two lines parallel or collinear or both?

            TIA

            NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
            So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

            NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
            So answer for (b) is 1/2

            A system of linear equations will have one of the three possible types of solutions

            1) Unique solution
            2) Infinite solutions
            3) no solution

            when you say \"no unique solution\" (the opposite of 1 in the list ) it should cover the cases of both 2 and 3 above.

            so for (a) in the question, both 1/2 and -2 are the answers, IMHO.[/quote]I agree with you if we are using mathematical definition whereby if the coefficient determinant is zero, then there is no unique solution. But this is beyond O level elementary math. O level elementary math only cover the concept of parallel and collinear. I remembered by \"no unique solutions\", the question would mean that \"there are solutions but the solutions are not unique\". Anyway, I have check with my youngest kid on his understanding and he concurred. Hope we are right.

            Hope this link can help with regard to the coverage of math at elementary level.

            http://www.freeganita.com/en/cogeo/7_4.htm

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              iFruit
              last edited by

              atutor2001:
              iFruit:

              [quote=\"atutor2001\"]
              NO UNIQUE solution means these 2 lines are collinear (2 lines overlapping each other, so every point on the lines is a solution or can say there are infinite number of solutions)
              So answer for (a) is -2 ONLY

              NO solution means these 2 lines are parallel but NOT collinear (these 2 lines will never meet which is why there is no solution)
              So answer for (b) is 1/2

              A system of linear equations will have one of the three possible types of solutions

              1) Unique solution
              2) Infinite solutions
              3) no solution

              when you say \"no unique solution\" (the opposite of 1 in the list ) it should cover the cases of both 2 and 3 above.

              so for (a) in the question, both 1/2 and -2 are the answers, IMHO.

              I agree with you if we are using mathematical definition whereby if the coefficient determinant is zero, then there is no unique solution. But this is beyond O level elementary math. O level elementary math only cover the concept of parallel and collinear. I remembered by \"no unique solutions\", the question would mean that \"there are solutions but the solutions are not unique\". Anyway, I have check with my youngest kid on his understanding and he concurred. Hope we are right.

              Hope this link can help with regard to the coverage of math at elementary level.

              http://www.freeganita.com/en/cogeo/7_4.htm[/quote]Hi atutor2001,

              I hate to argue over such a trivial matter ( and you may be right about o'level coverage), but if you look at the questions closely,

              (a) If the equations have no unique solution, find the values of m.
              (b) If the equations have no solutions, find the value of m.


              The question clearly expects multiple answers for (a) and a single answer for (b).

              In addition, the question (a) is asking for the values of m for which there is no unique solution. Then you have to list all the values of m for which there is no unique(single) solution.

              Just my 2 cents.

              Regards.

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                atutor2001
                last edited by

                iFruit:

                Hi atutor2001,

                I hate to argue over such a trivial matter ( and you may be right about o'level coverage), but if you look at the questions closely,

                (a) If the equations have no unique solution, find the values of m.
                (b) If the equations have no solutions, find the value of m.


                The question clearly expects multiple answers for (a) and a single answer for (b).

                In addition, the question (a) is asking for the values of m for which there is no unique solution. Then you have to list all the values of m for which there is no unique(single) solution.

                Just my 2 cents.

                Regards.
                Hi iFruit

                My apology, I didn't notice the \"values\" in the question. That being the case, my interpretation of the question is wrong. Then both 1/2 and -2 should be the answer for (a).

                Regards.

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                  SKT
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                  Hi iFruit and atutor2001,


                  Thank you very much for the clear explanation.

                  Regards.

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                    SKT
                    last edited by

                    Hi,


                    Solve the equation
                    lg3 + 2lg2x = lg(x + 6)

                    TIA

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                      iFruit
                      last edited by

                      SKT:
                      Hi,


                      Solve the equation
                      lg3 + 2lg2x = lg(x + 6)

                      TIA
                      lg3 + 2lg2x = lg(x+6)

                      lg3 + lg(2x)² = lg(x+6)

                      lg3.(2x)² =lg(x+6)

                      12x² = x+6

                      12x² -x -6 = 0

                      (4x-3)(3x+2) = 0

                      x = 3/4 or -2/3

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                        SKT
                        last edited by

                        iFruit:
                        SKT:

                        Hi,


                        Solve the equation
                        lg3 + 2lg2x = lg(x + 6)

                        TIA

                        lg3 + 2lg2x = lg(x+6)

                        lg3 + lg(2x)² = lg(x+6)

                        lg3.(2x)² =lg(x+6)

                        12x² = x+6

                        12x² -x -6 = 0

                        (4x-3)(3x+2) = 0

                        x = 3/4 or -2/3

                        Hi,

                        The answer provided is x = 3/4 only. Could it be x = -2/3 is invalid?

                        TIA

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