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      php
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      E3:
      php:

      let me share this...one day, a boy showed his SA1 result to his father. His father was very delighted because the boy scored 80-90 marks for all his papers. As an ex-PH student, he happily assumed that his kid would fall into the top few positions in class. But that happy moment only last for a couple of minutes.....he found out from his son that majority of the class scored above 90 marks....he began to PANIC....he compared his son's result with his which was 30 yrs ago.....


      i always told my dd to just focus on her school work and try her very best. it doesn't matter where she is going to land as long as she put in an effort. she can slowly climb up the learning ladder with the right pace and one day she will definitely reach the top of the ladder.

      Something I learnt...Time and tide wait for no man in PHPPS...πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ hehe...don't let yourself be thrown into a viscious cycle....no offence...

      Reading your posts, you mentioned your dd has no problems going to top 3 classes...so I guess she is one who can relax, relax and still do well? πŸ˜‰

      PHPPS is fast paced, everything goes past in a twinkling of an eye. I could still remember my dd applying for P1, balloting and all, now she's in P2...and before you know it...I'll be a very anxious parent preparing a child for PSLE...

      E3, there is no standard way of teaching kids...my dd needs to learn from the hard way... the IRON-TEETH type...during the first 2 terms, she was simply bo-chap.. unwilling to learn spelling and ting xue, the most she would look through the list ONCE and she would tell you she already knew all the words. As her parent, i was worried but she would come back in most occasions with all correct answers and 1-2 times that she got only 1 mistake which was acceptable to me. Her SA1 was ok, 70/75 (eng), 93/100 (maths) and 49.5/50 (ch). I knew that she could do better than that but i was waiting for an opportunity to push her. During T3, i noticed there was a change in her attitude. She became more diligent and obedient. I was waiting for her to tell me something. One fine day during the start of T4, she told me this...\"daddy, i didn't know what is schooling all about during the first 2 terms but now i understand. last time, i was not disciplined, i didn't hand up my homework on time, i didn't greet teachers...etc...but i have changed during T3. i try to be self-discipline, i do my homework (well, she still forgot sometime), i greet my teachers...and next, so-and-so scored 100 marks in maths during sa1, i will beat him in sa2 but i asked her how since 100 marks is the max...she replied she will go for 100 marks but hoping so-and-so makes a careless mistake in his paper...OMG.....As her parent, i chose PH for her and it is my responsibility to guide her through during her stay in PH. I wanted her to realise herself the environment she is in and the competition she is facing. Luckily, she WOKE UP after 2 terms of study and definitely i have an easier job now...I let her carry on with her own pace, push her abit if i feel she needs it.....To me, she needs to build a good and solid foundation during her P1/P2 and as parents, our job will be easier when she comes to upper primary...

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        janet_lee88:
        Jennifer:

        [quote=\"VbusyMum\"]then are we better off sending our middle abilities kid to a school with lower standard so that they can make it to the top class in that school and be taught by the school best teachers....???

        That's what I hv bn thinking too.

        If my boy does not make it to any of the top four classes next year, I am very likely going to apply at BPPS since it is within walking distance, better time spent instead of travelling by bus.
        Even if BPPS puts him in a non top class, it is ok with me since the situation is likely to be the same in PH. But my boy is unwilling to change sch :roll:

        The same neighbour also thinking of putting her 3rd child with BPPS and not PH even though this child will be under phase 1.

        Last yr, I thought of transferring my son to a school with affiliated sec school. The stress of staying in Pei Hwa is very high, esp so on me when he tends to be bochap. Here I am, planning revision time-table and he is like 'ok, do bcos you told me to' kind of attitude. Really can die.[/quote]Hi Janet, P5 is an important year and maybe you can try telling your boy it is not too late to start now....if he is in HU, i believe doing well in PSLE is within reach. Pushing him too hard might not be effective...well, you may try to know his weakness and guide him through step-by-step, probably you will see result much faster as compared to putting pressure on him to study, it may just backfire...

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          Trapwithin
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          php:
          IJJ:

          [quote=\"dyh\"]
          during my son's yr, 280/300 could only get into Gr2. :lol:

          Even at P2, with 279/300 could not get into Ch3.

          well, i think it will be getting more difficult year after year as more bright kids will choose PH as first choice....like PH P1 registration, now P2B also ballot liao...next year will be balloting for P2B within 1-2km, the following year will be balloting for P2B with 1km...[/quote]Balloting happen this year because they cut down 1 class.

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            Trapwithin
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            E3:
            Hope I am not too late in sharing this...


            Below is a list of tips from my dd's teacher today for writing composition:

            1. Break your paragraphs by picture
            2. Write in past tense only!
            3. Have a meaningful concluding paragraph
            4. Don't start/end with a question
            5. Use adjectives/ adverbs to describe your character/ action
            6. Restrict to 2 dialogues
            7. Don't end with dialogue
            8. Don't begin with outdoor setting if it's indoor setting
            9. Use linking words to connect ideas
            10. No contractions (except in dialogues)
            11. No excessive use of punctuation eg. Ahhhh!!!

            All the best for Paper 1 tomorrow!!
            This year P1 will also start to write comp instead of just structure writing.
            PhPPS standard moving upwards every year.

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              Trapwithin
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              php:
              E3:

              [quote=\"php\"]let me share this...one day, a boy showed his SA1 result to his father. His father was very delighted because the boy scored 80-90 marks for all his papers. As an ex-PH student, he happily assumed that his kid would fall into the top few positions in class. But that happy moment only last for a couple of minutes.....he found out from his son that majority of the class scored above 90 marks....he began to PANIC....he compared his son's result with his which was 30 yrs ago.....


              i always told my dd to just focus on her school work and try her very best. it doesn't matter where she is going to land as long as she put in an effort. she can slowly climb up the learning ladder with the right pace and one day she will definitely reach the top of the ladder.

              Something I learnt...Time and tide wait for no man in PHPPS...πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ hehe...don't let yourself be thrown into a viscious cycle....no offence...

              Reading your posts, you mentioned your dd has no problems going to top 3 classes...so I guess she is one who can relax, relax and still do well? πŸ˜‰

              PHPPS is fast paced, everything goes past in a twinkling of an eye. I could still remember my dd applying for P1, balloting and all, now she's in P2...and before you know it...I'll be a very anxious parent preparing a child for PSLE...

              E3, there is no standard way of teaching kids...my dd needs to learn from the hard way... the IRON-TEETH type...during the first 2 terms, she was simply bo-chap.. unwilling to learn spelling and ting xue, the most she would look through the list ONCE and she would tell you she already knew all the words. As her parent, i was worried but she would come back in most occasions with all correct answers and 1-2 times that she got only 1 mistake which was acceptable to me. Her SA1 was ok, 70/75 (eng), 93/100 (maths) and 49.5/50 (ch). I knew that she could do better than that but i was waiting for an opportunity to push her. During T3, i noticed there was a change in her attitude. She became more diligent and obedient. I was waiting for her to tell me something. One fine day during the start of T4, she told me this...\"daddy, i didn't know what is schooling all about during the first 2 terms but now i understand. last time, i was not disciplined, i didn't hand up my homework on time, i didn't greet teachers...etc...but i have changed during T3. i try to be self-discipline, i do my homework (well, she still forgot sometime), i greet my teachers...and next, so-and-so scored 100 marks in maths during sa1, i will beat him in sa2 but i asked her how since 100 marks is the max...she replied she will go for 100 marks but hoping so-and-so makes a careless mistake in his paper...OMG.....As her parent, i chose PH for her and it is my responsibility to guide her through during her stay in PH. I wanted her to realise herself the environment she is in and the competition she is facing. Luckily, she WOKE UP after 2 terms of study and definitely i have an easier job now...I let her carry on with her own pace, push her abit if i feel she needs it.....To me, she needs to build a good and solid foundation during her P1/P2 and as parents, our job will be easier when she comes to upper primary...[/quote]Good on you. Now just have to focus on coaching her.
              For other parents here, sometimes we just do not know when the child will understand the importance of studying hard. But on day they will. Hang in there. PHPPS is a good school, they will help to bring the best out of your child.

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                php
                last edited by

                Jennifer:
                VbusyMum:

                then are we better off sending our middle abilities kid to a school with lower standard so that they can make it to the top class in that school and be taught by the school best teachers....???

                That's what I hv bn thinking too.

                If my boy does not make it to any of the top four classes next year, I am very likely going to apply at BPPS since it is within walking distance, better time spent instead of travelling by bus

                Even if BPPS puts him in a non top class, it is ok with me since the situation is likely to be the same in PH. Only difference is we would hv more time (instead of wasting time travelling to n from esp when the traffic condition will only get worse with the flyover construction, widening of road n digging tunnel for the MRT line.)

                But my boy is unwilling to change sch :roll:

                The same neighbour also thinking of putting her 3rd child with BPPS and not PH even though this child will be under phase 1.

                Personally, i don't think transfering school is a good solution unless the kid is totally cannot manage the school work himself. No matter where you go, ultimately the kid will still be taking the same examination. Rather than wasting time putting the kid in an unknown environment (actually no school will guarantee you that your kid will get a good and committed teacher, it still depends on your luck), it might be better to find ways to help the kid in those areas that he is weak in.

                Let assume that you have a 1000cc car. You know that it can't match the power of Ferrari. If you try very hard to match the speed of that red car, your engine will catch fire one day. However, if you are the mechanic, you work on your car, upgrade the components day-by-day, work on your kid's weakness day-by-day, even your kid can't match the power of the red car in the competition, but i believe your upgraded 1000cc car will be able to match the power of a BMW 7series....Teacher is there to impart knowledge but the kid's attitude toward learning and parents involvement are equally important. Correct me if i am wrong.

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                  php
                  last edited by

                  Trapwithin:
                  E3:

                  Hope I am not too late in sharing this...


                  Below is a list of tips from my dd's teacher today for writing composition:

                  1. Break your paragraphs by picture
                  2. Write in past tense only!
                  3. Have a meaningful concluding paragraph
                  4. Don't start/end with a question
                  5. Use adjectives/ adverbs to describe your character/ action
                  6. Restrict to 2 dialogues
                  7. Don't end with dialogue
                  8. Don't begin with outdoor setting if it's indoor setting
                  9. Use linking words to connect ideas
                  10. No contractions (except in dialogues)
                  11. No excessive use of punctuation eg. Ahhhh!!!

                  All the best for Paper 1 tomorrow!!

                  This year P1 will also start to write comp instead of just structure writing.
                  PhPPS standard moving upwards every year.

                  well, almost quarrel with my dd's mummy regarding this issue. dd was taught in her creative writing class to SHOW and not to TELL in her writing. for eg. instead of \"it was a sunny day.\", my dd will write \"the sun shore brightly and fleecy white clouds floated in the sky.\"

                  However, her EL teacher seems not to like her style and her mummy getting panic. but you can't change that overnight and it will confuse her further which is right and which is wrong. I believe her teacher still wants to see safe writing which is boring. Anyway, i asked dd to stick to her style and well, the most she will lose 1 or 2 marks...but for long term, that is the direction to follow and i would prefer she starts early...

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                    php
                    last edited by

                    E3:
                    Hope I am not too late in sharing this...


                    Below is a list of tips from my dd's teacher today for writing composition:

                    1. Break your paragraphs by picture
                    2. Write in past tense only!
                    3. Have a meaningful concluding paragraph
                    4. Don't start/end with a question
                    5. Use adjectives/ adverbs to describe your character/ action
                    6. Restrict to 2 dialogues
                    7. Don't end with dialogue
                    8. Don't begin with outdoor setting if it's indoor setting
                    9. Use linking words to connect ideas
                    10. No contractions (except in dialogues)
                    11. No excessive use of punctuation eg. Ahhhh!!!

                    All the best for Paper 1 tomorrow!!
                    Can't sleep in the middle of the night, so just post the following info which i took from another site which may help your kids' writing in future. dd started one month ago and she is enjoying the class so far.

                    The Alternative Story wrote:


                    Hi GilTang,

                    For reading, you can get your daughters to have an exercise
                    book with them when they read. As they read, when they come
                    across good phrases that they can use for their compositions, they
                    can put a coloured tag on that page and continue reading.
                    When they have finished reading the whole book, they can go back
                    to where the tags are and copy down the good phrases from the
                    storybook into their exercise book. They would also need to
                    categorize these phrases. For example, if there is
                    a phrase that described a drowning scene, they can write it down
                    and put in under the heading 'Drowning'. They would need to
                    leave a few pages for that category (so that when they come
                    across more drowning phrases in the future, they can then add
                    them in).

                    You can then get them to use these phrases in their writing but they
                    must apply them to their writing and not copy the phrase word for
                    word as sometimes the phrases might not totally suit what they
                    are writing.

                    Example:
                    (This is taken from Hostage by Chris Ryan)

                    Category: Reaction to danger
                    Amber stared back, frozen with fear. Up close, the size of
                    the creature was overwhelming. With huge effort, Amber controlled
                    her terror. Her brain started to work again and she realized that
                    she was staring death in the face. A second later, her body jerked
                    into action. – pg 13

                    This phrase can be used to describe a reaction to seeing a panther
                    on the loose. It can also be used to describe seeing a car coming
                    close. For the car scene, they woud need to apply this phrase:

                    Application:

                    I stared, frozen with fear, at the car careening down the road. Up
                    close, the vibrations on the road as the car came closer were
                    overwhelming. With huge effort, I controlled my terror. My brain
                    started to work again and I realized I was staring death in the face.
                    A second later, my body jerked to action and I started running.

                    In order for children to apply what they have read to their writing,
                    a concerted effort must be made. If your child balks at the
                    thought of copying down these phrases, then perhaps you could
                    get the books from us. Our books do come with creative
                    writing phrases that have been extracted from the books and they
                    are already in categories and hence, your children can file these
                    phrases up and look at them when they are writing their compositions.

                    Example of our creative writing extracts:

                    Monster Republic by Ben Horton

                    Chase (adapted)

                    Rora had summoned an extra burst of speed from somewhere and
                    was already way ahead of him. There was no catching up with her.
                    – pg 33

                    Shouts and splashing footsteps suddenly sounded in the distance.
                    A searching torch beam probed the gloom. Cameron flinched at
                    the intrusion of the bright light. – pg 58

                    Late night walk home (adapted)

                    The journey took a dark and lonely hour, interrupted only by the
                    passage of a car or the footsteps of pedestrians. The wind howled
                    and the leaves rustled as he made his way home. –pg 62

                    Burglary (adapted)
                    Cameron took a deep breath and crept along the side of the house.
                    As he rounded the corner, his heart jumped into his mouth. There
                    was somebody in the garden! Waiting, silhouetted against the night
                    sky. The person stood in the shadows. Suddenly, he stood and made
                    his way stealthily to the Lim’s house and began to pry open the door.
                    A burglar. Cameron was seeing a burglary take place before him.
                    – pg 64

                    TAS

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                      BraisedPorkBelly
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                      Thanks php for the sharing. Will keep this tip in mind next time when guiding my dd in reading more chim story books & to pick up phrases for composition.


                      Cant help but get kan chiong whenever I check out this forum .. but always try to control myself from getting all panicky & worried.

                      Husband & I decided we probably wont push dd too hard for a start. Prefer to see how well she settle down & hopefully she will enjoy school. So long as she puts in decent effort, we have mentally prepared ourselves that even if she ends up in last class, we are fine with it. Just have to keep praying for good teachers & friends.

                      Yesterday we went to West mall sportslink to check out the white adidas shoes which someone mentioned earlier in the forum. For whoever is interested, it costs like 35 or 38 I forgotten.. but we found a much lighter shoe selling for 25 at Bata (the brand is Power). We decided to buy this instead after considering the weight & price difference πŸ™‚

                      Also bought a school bag for her. So now only left with the booklist items & we are all set for P1 :celebrate:

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                        Jennifer
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                        php:
                        well, almost quarrel with my dd's mummy regarding this issue. dd was taught in her creative writing class to SHOW and not to TELL in her writing. for eg. instead of \"it was a sunny day.\", my dd will write \"the sun shore brightly and fleecy white clouds floated in the sky.\"


                        However, her EL teacher seems not to like her style and her mummy getting panic. but you can't change that overnight and it will confuse her further which is right and which is wrong. I believe her teacher still wants to see safe writing which is boring. Anyway, i asked dd to stick to her style and well, the most she will lose 1 or 2 marks...but for long term, that is the direction to follow and i would prefer she starts early...
                        That's very unusual. It is encouraged to SHOW, not TELL in my elder boy's case since P5. IN P6, there is a 3rd party coming in to teach creative writing (I know why P6? Shld start earlier) that emphasize this as well. Can tell us who is the teacher? Or maybe that particular phrase did not reflect the scene appropriately?

                        My boy learnt this in P2 \"the sun inched its way up to the clear blue sky\", till now he still uses it in every compo he writes. I hv banned him as it is getting boring :lol: and he is not making an effort to learn other ones.

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