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      verykiasu2010
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      MOE Hater:
      verykiasu2010:

      I think it is not possible to have t-score of more than 75 for any subject.


      Max t-score for each subject is 75. Max aggregate is 300.

      http://road-to-psle.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-psle-aggregate-and-t-scores-are.html

      Of course it is possible to get more than 75

      Please illustrate with an example

      thank you

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        atutor2001
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        verykiasu2010:
        Please illustrate with an example


        thank you
        The formula for T-score = 50 + 10 x (X-Y)/Z

        X = Raw score of student
        Y = Average Score of the whole cohort
        Z = Standard Deviation* (SD)

        So if Z is very very small i.e. near zero, then (X-Y)/Z approaches infinity.

        Mathematically, there is no upper limit to the T-score.

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          Sun_2010
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          verykiasu2010:


          Please illustrate with an example

          thank you
          To take a practical example
          Say for tough Maths paper and a smart child, the
          mean = 60,
          SD= 12
          raw score = 96

          T- Score = 50 + (96-60)10/12
          = 80

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            Sun_2010
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            My 2 cents-

            A small increase in SD has a larger impact on the T-score than in a simialr increase in mean.

            Say the same example as above with mean increase by 3
            mean = 63
            SD= 12
            raw score = 96
            T- Score = 50 + (96-63)10/12 = 77.5

            now with SD increase by 1 point
            mean = 60
            SD= 13
            raw score = 96
            T- Score = 50 + (96-63)10/12 = 77.69

            So the impact of mean increase by 3 is affects slightly more than SD increase by 1.

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              verykiasu2010
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              thank you all for the wonderful examples !


              what has been the range of the SD and the mean for each subject in recent years ? any one ?

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                Augmum
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                MOE Hater:
                verykiasu2010:

                I think it is not possible to have t-score of more than 75 for any subject.


                Max t-score for each subject is 75. Max aggregate is 300.

                http://road-to-psle.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-psle-aggregate-and-t-scores-are.html

                Of course it is possible to get more than 75

                regarding this issue whether is it possible to get over T-score aggregate of 300 or beyond 75 T-score for each subject,
                although theoretically it may seem possible from the equation but maybe practically in PSLE , not feasible
                as i had seen it on a slide presented by a Primary school (elite sch)to Parents that the max T-score for each subject is 75
                and the max aggregate T-score is 300
                (i tried to google it but could not find now as it was a few years ago)

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                  atutor2001
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                  Augmum:
                  regarding this issue whether is it possible to get over T-score aggregate of 300 or beyond 75 T-score for each subject,

                  although theoretically it may seem possible from the equation but maybe practically in PSLE , not feasible
                  as i had seen it on a slide presented by a Primary school to Parents that the max T-score for each subject is 75
                  and the max aggregate T-score is 300
                  (i tried to google it but could not find now as it was a few years ago)
                  T-score can definitely go over 75. The most likely subject for t-score above 75 is math. Let say the mean for math is 70 and the standard deviation is 20 (very big in my opinion), a top student with 100 marks will get a t-score of 70+10(100-70)/20 = 85.

                  Even if the mean is only 60 (too low in my opinion) and the standard deviation remaining as 20, a top student with 100 marks will still get a t-score of 80. That is why it is very important to do well for subjects where the mean is high.

                  Schools that presented T-score of 75 per subject and 300 for the total, probably, is using the general average they have been observing. I also believe that moderation is made so that the T-scores are around that range.

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                    Augmum
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                    atutor2001:
                    T-score can definitely go over 75. The most likely subject for t-score above 75 is math. Let say the mean for math is 70 and the standard deviation is 20 (very big in my opinion), a top student with 100 marks will get a t-score of 70+10(100-70)/20 = 85.

                    Even if the mean is only 60 (too low in my opinion) and the standard deviation remaining as 20, a top student with 100 marks will still get a t-score of 80. That is why it is very important to do well for subjects where the mean is high.

                    Schools that presented T-score of 75 per subject and 300 for the total, probably, is using the general average they have been observing. I also believe that moderation is made so that the T-scores are around that range.
                    btw, the formula is T = 50 + 10(X - Y) / Z
                    and not what u have stated 70 + 10(100-70)/20
                    if according to yr mean for math is 70 and SD is 20 shd work out to be
                    50+ 10(30)/20 =65 not 85

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                      atutor2001
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                      Augmum:
                      btw, the formula is T = 50 + 10(X - Y) / Z

                      and not what u have stated 70 + 10(100-70)/20
                      if according to yr mean for math is 70 and SD is 20 shd work out to be
                      50+ 10(30)/20 =65 not 85
                      My apology, got it mixed up.

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                        Augmum
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                        atutor2001:
                        My apology, got it mixed up.

                        it's ok....no need to aplogise.... 😄
                        just wanna to tell u that there's an error in the formula.

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