How to tell if a child is gifted?
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Thank you everyone, for your kind help and suggestions. Last night, I .... :lol: :idea:
:stupid: :?: :?: :?:
Thank you 2ppaamm for your suggestion, tomorrow morning myself and hubby will go chuang the principal's office.
Your sharing and jokes has also help lighten my mood and given me ideas ..
Sleepy : ha ha ah a I also used to tell my boy that even though he could learn and pick up his music pieces much faster than his friends, he still needs to practice more to perfect it, .... even Mozart ( his favourite composer ) needs to practice to express the music right
Deminc : I loves yr jokes ! ha hah a a
but its true leh .... so its really not so funny to me .... sigh ...
tamarind : I loves your suggestions, thank you ! I will surly use them, especially the last part : stare at him blankly, cause they need to cope with boredom, and keep themselves busy w constructive things, it being a necessary life skill !
Frankly i find it very funny and amusing ! High chance effective on my boy and he'll be amused by it too ! ha ha ha ah a
God bless u all.
Will share what the principal says .... -
sleepy:
IMO, there are pro and con of accelerating the learning process of high ability children. the con is they will feel bored in school and the pro is ..well.. we get to see how far they can be nurtured and they get to learn more things at a faster pace. So if u think u are able to handle them yourself like what 2ppaamm is doing with her kids, then accelerating the learning process would be good and enjoyable to the kids else as what dh's of sleepy said..y need to accelerate ..let them stay and enjoy in the same level..Maple leaf:
Hi Sleepy,
! :shock: WISC-IV
Wow! U know how much they charge for that at those private clinic?
I get even more envious of you now.
My DS is just like your DD, weaker in Verbal comprehension. He is only non verbally gifted and verbal is only High average.Maple leaf:
Just curious, what was your reason to test him?However. I did learn more from the report which I think is useful.
Oh, have no idea what are the charges, it didn't occur to us earlier to send her for IQ test. If really want to do test, I think would have done before P1 & perhaps try for early admission.
Anyway we didn't. My dh's simplistic theory is if a child is more advanced, lagi should stay in same level, no need to study till face 'green green', got mood & time to enjoy scenery, day dream a little, why not? :lol: I tend to lean towards the other spectrum. If a child is able to progress at an accelerated pace, why not? I based on my instinct to nurture her accordingly, need not rely on any external test. However, I do feel helpless sometimes, keep encountering road blocks, not sure how to bring out her full potential. And I must add, that piece of IQ report didn't shred any light for me eh
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Hie sleepy
I think our family falls in the same category. :celebrate:
Cause of this myself and dh had a big argument and cold war abt where to put our dear son ! And I give in, leading to such a mess
now ...
i should have insisted in putting him at Maris Stella and the likes,
then probably my darling son wouldnt have to go through those
\" gruelling and boring \" lessons in class. AT least these schools will have more challenging questions and projects to keep his mind busy, happy and occupied .... -
sleepy:
Personally, I think skipping one or two grades is fine.
But that 'free' IQ test didn't do anything for us eh. Just a piece of paper for souvenir
Tested gifted? What are your plans? Skip levels?
But other people tend to treat the child differently, esp in Singapore. That is out of our control, be it undue respect, ostracism, etc. This will affect child's self-concept due to his social environment.
I'll outsource some activities cos I can't do everything. If I do, I'll prob pick the ones I like, which prob involves reading & academic discussion (less prepwork reqd), which may worsen the class boredom, \"impaired motor development\" or nerd factor.
There are less marked differences in emotional development within a 2-year band. EQ or social experience is accumulated, esp if the child is younger than 10 years old. A gifted child of 9 years old is definitely unable to 'understand life' compared with a teenager of 14 or 16 years.
I think being a high-achiever who is a all-rounder is much better than being gifted. They earn big bucks & are extremely popular with everyone. They also know how to appreciate simple and finer things in life.
I won't bother abt IQ test. Even if I do know somehow, no one in my family will know cos I know how they'll behave.
PS
I don't like the idea of a child entering university before 16 years old cos I'm scared my baby can't handle sex, BGR love, etc... More like, I'm not ready to let go yet.
Now, anyone with with bright toddlers interested in soccer or kick-about playdates?? -
hie vlim
initially i did not and totally wash my hands off my son's schoolwork. Only helping by giving him guidelines to follow only. i tried my very best not to teach him anything new at all, since mid K2.
All these :
1. for fear of stressing him
2. that he do not listens in class
2. being the case which occured even while he's in K2 ! Teacher complained to me. So does his music teacher !
SO I \" learnt my lesson \" from his K2 and stop teaching my son.
However, the scenario changed in P1 cause I'd stopped entirely, he, still the same behavior as in K2. This time round he complained class boring ! And on several occasions begged me to homeschool him instead, and wanted me to teach him !
He loves it when I teach him, loves it when mummy teach !
and so history repeats itself, he daydreams in class, maybe sometimes try to listen to please the form teacher.
WHich at one point early this year, everytime he arrives home, he picked up one of his books ( some history or geography ) to read, then the next week, he'll build all his Lego ships, castles
etc etc.
Me observing by the side, he's doing these with a vengeance, as if letting out and exercising some creative juices and muscles ...... probably an innate reaction from his own body self, gaining back what he had been prohibited or lost for the last 5 hours of the morning while at school . :?
1. it seems not doing anything challenging is stressing him out very much ! -
ok..then hope the principal can give u a good solution
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pingsped:
Actually, I don't really know what being a high-achiever is exactly. But I do believe that a person must maximum his/her potential, no matter where his IQ is. And this is where he/she outshines everybody else. Perhaps this is called being a high achiever?
I think being a high-achiever who is a all-rounder is much better than being gifted. They earn big bucks & are extremely popular with everyone. They also know how to appreciate simple and finer things in life.
HOWEVER, I am quite against the way our schools 'pump' the kids up for exams.... I feel that a child must enjoy the learning process and not psyched to go for A's all the time. Well, if you put in enough effort, and the A comes along and that's great. I'm concerned that prior to PSLE, schools work the kids till late and arrange so many supplementary classes. I signed my kids out of all of these supplementary classes, I saw no point. Of course, the teachers said they would have scored higher T scores, but who cares. I want them home. Well, my kids did get straight As, but who's to know at the time I let them skip the classes? It was a risk. What I got from being less 'pumping' kind of mother: they know I am not intense and competitive. So at times when they are lazy, I remind them that I will never be pushy or give them additional pressure. Works every time, and they'll do what I ask!
For every child, I believe it is important to know what they want and help them achieve that. It did not matter what my likes or dislikes are. If the child comes to me wanting to do a higher level work, then I'll gladly guide him. But if he just wants to do minimum, it is also fine. At the same time, I think we have to constantly remind the child that he must maximum HIS potential. I also don't want my child comparing with others, whether they are better or worse than him. Even without us parents comparing, I found my kids comparing themselves with each other. I have to constantly remind them they are all different and if mummy doesn't compare, then why do they?
While I was still a CEO of a company, I used to spend 5 hours a day at the piano with my kids. One or two hours each, and I teach my two daughters piano myself, until they got to Grade 5 or so. I would draft their curriculum and make sure I followed it. (I can be very disciplined.) My kids all finished their Grade 8 by 10. Honestly, I don't think ALL of my kids are gifted (two of them are very gifted) in music. But I believe the discipline and hardwork got them all to the same place. Some got distinctions, some got merits. The most gifted one only managed to pass grade 8. But he went on to do very well in his diploma. Did it matter that he did not score so high? No. But he was the one who scored the lowest who went on to further his study on the piano. Marks did not matter.
My friends, upon seeing how diligent I am, would say things like, \"O, I have to work, no time to sit there with them.\" \"O, but I only play at grade 7\". But hey, I play at grade nothing. I played other instruments, but have no qualifications on the piano. There was one time when DD1 could not play a very difficult part on the piano. Out of frustration, she exclaimed she gave up. So, I went to practise that part while she was at school. When she came home, she was playing on one piano, and then I played with her on the other in another room. She was so surprised and motivated by then. She got that part done properly by the end of the day.
And it is the same with sports, and academic, music etc. To have our kids excel beyond what they can perceive with their eyes, we lead by example. I also believe kids should have something they work hard at, and excel in. With that, comes confidence. When they see that they do excel in one area or two, their perspectives of themselves change. But to excel, it means tons and tons of work.
Accelerating is a very difficult issue for all of us. Like everyone here, I fight with DH for each child. He cannot see why they should go beyond their peers. What I'd do is, I just go about doing what I believe lah. The kids are ready to move, I move them. Until the day they are ready for university. I'd ask them to speak to and persuade papa themselves. DS1 had to go on hunger strike to persuade papa to allow him to go to university at 14. Just a month ago, DS1 told me that there are 2 things that shaped his life and he is the most happy with. His university and that one competition (out of many) he went to US for, and won 4th prize among hundreds of contestants from 63 countries. If I hadn't allowed him to do something 'beyond his level' or accelerated, then he would not have this 'joy'. The child is already competitive by nature (though he is immensely popular and humble), so my job becomes more 'mentor-like'. I cannot push him. At the same time, I saw that it was important that I guide him where he wants to go. He also told me he'd like to take some post-grad courses that will add to his PhD which he would like to pursue after his NS. I told him I'd find some courses he can do during his summer breaks. So, I'm searching these few weeks. He has a plan already, I am there to help him execute that plan. It is not my liking to send or not send him here or there, or anywhere. The child leads, I follow. Remember, his peers are preparing for O levels now.
And the same goes for all the NT kids. If the child has other special needs like AS, honestly, I am at a total loss. He does not want to do anything except what he likes, which means just reading the whole day. While he also derives immense joy in his achievements, the child cannot regulate his body to do what's right. He cannot even get himself sitting upright given the imbalance in the inner ear...
These are just my thoughts and hope that it'll be of use to some people participating in this forum, or just silently reading. If you have some ideas or solutions for me, do let me know! -
pingsped:
But other people tend to treat the child differently, esp in Singapore. That is out of our control, be it undue respect, ostracism, etc. This will affect child's self-concept due to his social environment.
When I was reading this, I thought of someone :idea: Harry Potter ! -
2ppaamm:
Dear 2ppaamm,
To have our kids excel beyond what they can perceive with their eyes, we lead by example.
*with immense respect* :thankyou: for sharing so much of your valuable insights.
I am a silent reader of your posts here. I really look forward to, enjoy and benefit so much from reading them.
Yes, I subscribe to the above point of view as well. I always tell my DH that for me personally, being a mother is the most difficult role I've had to take on, more than being a daughter, career woman, wife or DIL.
:udawoman: -
2ppaamm:
Actually, I don't really know what being a high-achiever is exactly. But I do believe that a person must maximum his/her potential, no matter where his IQ is. And this is where he/she outshines everybody else. Perhaps this is called being a high achiever?pingsped:
I think being a high-achiever who is a all-rounder is much better than being gifted. They earn big bucks & are extremely popular with everyone. They also know how to appreciate simple and finer things in life.
For every child, I believe it is important to know what they want and help them achieve that. I did not matter what our likes or dislikes are. If the child comes to me wanting to do a higher level work, then I'll gladly guide him. But if he just wants to do minimum, it is also fine. At the same time, I think we have to constantly remind the child that he must maximum HIS potential. I also don't want my child comparing with others, whether they are better or worse than him. Even without us parents comparing, I found my kids comparing themselves with each other. I have to constantly remind them they are all different and if mummy doesn't compare, then why do they?
While I was still a CEO of a company, I used to spend 5 hours a day at the piano with my kids. One or two hours each, and I teach my two daughters piano myself, until they got to Grade 5 or so. I would draft their curriculum and make sure I followed it. (I can be very disciplined.) My kids all finished their Grade 8 by 10. Honestly, I don't think ALL of my kids are gifted (two of them are very gifted) in music. But I believe the discipline and hardwork got them all the same place. Some got distinctions, some got merits. The most gifted one only managed to pass grade 8. But he went on to do very well in his diploma. Did it matter that he did not score so high? No. But it was the one who scored the lowest who went on to further his study on the piano.
And it is the same with sports, and academic, music etc. To have our kids excel beyond what they can perceive with their eyes, we lead by example. I also believe kids should have something they work hard at, and excel in. With that, comes confidence. When they see that they do excel in one area or two, their perspective of themselves changed. But to excel, it means tons and tons of work.
Accelerating is a very difficult issue for all of us. Like everyone here, I fight with DH for each child. He cannot see why they should go beyond their peers. What I'd do is, I just go about doing what I believe lah. The kids are ready to move, I move them.
:goodpost:
You are a great inspiration to me!
I am super impressed with your diligence in bringing out your kids' potential and your courage in travelling the path less travelled
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