PSLE 2010 Results Report Here

[kiasu-2]

My daughter scored 246 including 3 marks for HMT.Any intro for good sch in the west part of singapore?

[noob]

kiasu-2:

My daughter scored 246 including 3 marks for HMT.Any intro for good sch in the west part of singapore?

Choices : Nan Hua, Bukit Panjang Govt High

[fromnuaa]

Because NYGH and HCI mean and median t-scores are lower than RI and RGS (despite of HMT), so I think it is reasonable that RI A-level result is better than HCI...

jtoh:

These are the stats from MOE for 2009:

RGS
Lower 260
Upper 285
Mean 266
Median 267

NYGH (non-affiliation)
Lower 263
Upper 283
Mean 268
Median 268

NYGH (affiliation)
Lower 250
Upper 276
Mean 257
Median 257

Note that these stats do not include the scores of students who DSA'd into RGS and NYGH. So for RGS, the upper score is 290 because last year's top scorer went to RGS. I'm not sure what the upper score in NY is.

Also, note that NYGH's scores include the HMT bonus points.

Edited to add: So if you add in NY's affiliated scores, the mean and median will go down.

[semaj]

There is so much talk about which school, RGS or NYGH. RI or HCi? But in the end really what every parent is asking is which IP programme is better. Raffles IP or Hwa Chong IP? And the only thing we really have is the A level results. I believe the 1st batch of IP students graduated in 2008. So here are some more stats on A level results (gathered from the respective school web sites upon release of A level results)

No of students with 7 A’s and above (meaning all distinctions)
2008 RJC 360 HCJC 174
2009 RJC 303 HCJC 216
Hope this helps parents to decide. Granted one should not only look at the results. One has to look at the child and see which culture suits the child. But as parents, we always want the best for our child right?

[semaj]

fromnuaa:

Chinese scholar: strong in MT, weak in other subjects (because of English).

Local students: weak in MT, strong in other subjects.

I think it would be fairer for secondary school (year 1 - year 4) if the school has less China scholars....

semaj:

[quote=\"fromnuaa\"]how about RGS? In RGS, lots of China scholars or not?

I think there are China scholars in RGS too but I think the number is smaller as NYGH/HCI is more well known to mainland Chinese than Raffles. In an ealier thread on this forum, someone wrote this: Go to NYGH/HCI if you want to study in Beijing/Oxford & Cambridge (humanities programme). But if you want ot go to US Ivy League, then go to Raffles JC. So want to study in China go to NYGH. Want to study in US, study in RGS. Sorry this may sound very blunt. No offense to NYGH or RGS.

[/quote]I think you are wrong fromnuaa. The china & vietnam scholars in NYGH are actually very bright. And very good all round except for ENGLISH. In math and the sciences, they are miles ahead of our local students. Many of these scholars are acutally older than the local students. So for example in Sec 1, while the locals are 13y, the scholars are 14 or 15. Some have already studied what NYGH is teaching them when they were in their home counry. So it is only a revision for them. So obviously, they will do very well in the exams. Most of them get in to the top 2 classes ij NYGH.

[atutor2001]

semaj:

There is so much talk about which school, RGS or NYGH. RI or HCi? But in the end really what every parent is asking is which IP programme is better. Raffles IP or Hwa Chong IP? And the only thing we really have is the A level results. I believe the 1st batch of IP students graduated in 2008. So here are some more stats on A level results (gathered from the respective school web sites upon release of A level results)

No of students with 7 A's and above (meaning all distinctions)
2008 RJC 360 HCJC 174
2009 RJC 303 HCJC 216
Hope this helps parents to decide. Granted one should not only look at the results. One has to look at the child and see which culture suits the child. But as parents, we always want the best for our child right?

Hi semaj

You have given a very good stat. Many don't realise. It is the culture of the school. Somehow, RJ students can peak when the time comes. Many of them fooled around throughout JC but will still get straight As in A level.

Another point I have observed. Many from RV who went to RJ after O level, moved on to be among the top students in RJ. I don't know why but that was what I got feedback from my kids during their time. No offence to DH parents. Top students that I happened to know who went to DH somehow did not shine in A level - no stat to show but based on my kaypohing on top students who opt for DH instead of RI or RGS.

Ya one more observation. The top humanity students from RGS will usually go to HCI instead of RI in JC.

[ttlkbs]

penjuin69:

noob:

RV, DHS, HCI you can use HCL (255+2) to apply but not for NJC as it is not a SAP school. So base on your score, RV stand very good chance, HCL & DHS boarderline and NJC below their cut-off point last year (lesser chance).

same headache here... 237.. Ngee Ann Sec should be the 1st choice ? we stay in the east... any suggestion, pls .

How about CCHM & TKSS ?

[fromnuaa]

you are right, that is why i said that it is unfair for local NYGH students..

semaj:

fromnuaa:

Chinese scholar: strong in MT, weak in other subjects (because of English).
Local students: weak in MT, strong in other subjects.

I think it would be fairer for secondary school (year 1 - year 4) if the school has less China scholars....
[quote=\"semaj\"]I think there are China scholars in RGS too but I think the number is smaller as NYGH/HCI is more well known to mainland Chinese than Raffles. In an ealier thread on this forum, someone wrote this: Go to NYGH/HCI if you want to study in Beijing/Oxford & Cambridge (humanities programme). But if you want ot go to US Ivy League, then go to Raffles JC. So want to study in China go to NYGH. Want to study in US, study in RGS. Sorry this may sound very blunt. No offense to NYGH or RGS.

I think you are wrong fromnuaa. The china & vietnam scholars in NYGH are actually very bright. And very good all round except for ENGLISH. In math and the sciences, they are miles ahead of our local students. Many of these scholars are acutally older than the local students. So for example in Sec 1, while the locals are 13y, the scholars are 14 or 15. Some have already studied what NYGH is teaching them when they were in their home counry. So it is only a revision for them. So obviously, they will do very well in the exams. Most of them get in to the top 2 classes ij NYGH.[/quote]

[semaj]

fromnuaa:

you are right, that is why i said that it is unfair for local NYGH students..

semaj:

[quote=\"fromnuaa\"]Chinese scholar: strong in MT, weak in other subjects (because of English).
Local students: weak in MT, strong in other subjects.

I think it would be fairer for secondary school (year 1 - year 4) if the school has less China scholars....

I think you are wrong fromnuaa. The china & vietnam scholars in NYGH are actually very bright. And very good all round except for ENGLISH. In math and the sciences, they are miles ahead of our local students. Many of these scholars are acutally older than the local students. So for example in Sec 1, while the locals are 13y, the scholars are 14 or 15. Some have already studied what NYGH is teaching them when they were in their home counry. So it is only a revision for them. So obviously, they will do very well in the exams. Most of them get in to the top 2 classes ij NYGH.

[/quote]Sad but true. So in the end our kids have to really really really study damn hard. They got to have NO LIFE but study. Like that Malay girl who takes 40 mins break only . Only becoz she wants to go to RGS. She mugs so hard. Then she gets an uneven playing field in RGS. Then she studies even harder coz she has to compete with the foreign students.

[stetan]

WeiHan:

stetan:

[quote=\"WeiHan\"]
For the past 20-30 years, The Chinese High School and Nanyang Girls High School hardly produced more than 5 president scholars (total) but HCJC managed to produce one of the highest number of president scholars among all JCs. You go and figure where the students came from? It is not hard to think that at least a few came from schools like RGS and RI.

For me, if there are 30-50 students, and they happened to be outstanding, it is sufficient to give an impression of \"many\".

HCJC produced the most President Scholars is because it is one of the olderest JC around as compared to RJC which only started in 1982.

You need to compare apples to apples. If you add up the number of years that RJC was RI Pre-U (predecessor), you would have realise that RJC/RI would be 1st lah.

The fact that there wasn't 30-50 as you claim...even that is not consider many out of a cohort of 400 for RI and 400 for RGS =800.

who you trying to kid ?

HCJC being one of the oldest JC can't alone account for the fact that it produced the most president scholars. There must be quite alot of good students from other good secondary schools (such as RI and RGS) to account for it. As I have said, TCHS and NYGS don't produced more than 5 for the last 20-30 years. The other dozens that HCJC have produced must come from other secondary schools...evrybody can go and figure which other secondary schools can produce so many president scholars.[/quote]Your argument is beginning to sound like a joke.

How many president scholars are there in a year ?

You can count on your figures, It is an average of only 5 a year.

So you are basing that to say \"many\" people from Ri/RGS goes to HCJC ?

Do you realise how ridiculous your claims are ?