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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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    • I Offline
      iFruit
      last edited by

      Daddy:
      Hi,


      Another ratio problem to solve :? Please help. Thanks

      1. 2/5 of P is equal to 3/10 of Q. 1/2 of R is equal to Q. Express P as a simple ratio to R

      Thanks
      2/5 x P = 3/10 x Q -------------(1)
      1/2 x R = Q --------------------(2)

      Substituting (2) in (1), we get

      2P/5 = 3/10 x (R/2) = 3R/20

      after cross multiplying,

      P/R = (5x3)/ (2x20) = 3/8

      P:R = 3:8


      HTH

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        Brenda10
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        Daddy:
        hi Brenda10,


        very sorry. I did not understand the working. any other simplest way of explaining. Thanks

        O : P
        9 : 5 (at First)
        -240 -200
        12 : 5 (at the end)

        O 45u 1200 (9 x 5, 240 x 5)
        P 60u 2400 (5 x 12, 200 x 12)
        Diff 15u = 1200
        1u = 80

        Oranges Left 9u - 240
        720 - 240 = 480

        Oranges and pears at first : 14u
        14 * 80 = 1120

        Thanks answers are correct.
        Hi, this question is so called classifed under \"External Change\" Model.

        We have to make the final qty 12 parts and 5 parts equal. As such we have to multiply the entire colum by the same number.

        Then we have (9 x 5, 240 x 5) and (5 x 12, 200x 12).

        Hopefully you can understand and BTW all these strategies and explanation can be found in some assesssment books.

        Happy New Year.

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          Dharma
          last edited by

          Daddy:
          Hi,


          Another ratio problem to solve :? Please help. Thanks

          1. 2/5 of P is equal to 3/10 of Q. 1/2 of R is equal to Q. Express P as a simple ratio to R

          Thanks
          2/5 P = 3/10 Q
          P/Q = 3/10 x 5/2 = 3/4
          P : Q = 3 : 4

          Q = 1/2 R
          Q/R = 1/2
          Q : R = 1 : 2 = 4 : 8
          so, P : R = 3 : 8

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            Tang
            last edited by

            Dharma:
            Daddy:

            Hi,


            Another ratio problem to solve :? Please help. Thanks

            1. 2/5 of P is equal to 3/10 of Q. 1/2 of R is equal to Q. Express P as a simple ratio to R

            Thanks

            2/5 P = 3/10 Q
            P/Q = 3/10 x 5/2 = 3/4
            P : Q = 3 : 4

            Q = 1/2 R
            Q/R = 1/2
            Q : R = 1 : 2 = 4 : 8
            so, P : R = 3 : 8


            Hi,

            2/5 x 3/3 = 6/15

            3/10 x 2/2 = 6/20

            1/2 x 20/20 = 20/40

            15 :40 = 3 :8

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              pineapple tarts
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              Good day Maths Guru,


              I am stucked with this one.

              A group of children paid a total of $364 for a trip. Each girl paid $10 and each boy paid a dollar less. If there were 6 girls more than boys, how many boys were there in the group?

              Other than using the guessing method (draw the table), is there other solution?

              Many thanks

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                autolycus
                last edited by

                pineapple tarts:
                Good day Maths Guru,


                I am stucked with this one.

                A group of children paid a total of $364 for a trip. Each girl paid $10 and each boy paid a dollar less. If there were 6 girls more than boys, how many boys were there in the group?

                Other than using the guessing method (draw the table), is there other solution?

                Many thanks
                The price is roughly $10 per person.

                So there must be 37 children at least, maybe 38.

                Since there are 6 girls more than boys, it must be an even number (boys = girls, plus another 6 girls). Right, so total = 38.

                Take out those 6 extra girls, boys + girls (same number of each) = 32.

                So there must be 16 boys + 16 girls + 6 extra girls.

                Now let's check.

                16 x $9 = $144
                22 x $10 = $220

                Total = $364. Yay!

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                  pineapple tarts
                  last edited by

                  autolycus:

                  The price is roughly $10 per person.

                  So there must be 37 children at least, maybe 38.

                  Since there are 6 girls more than boys, it must be an even number (boys = girls, plus another 6 girls). Right, so total = 38.

                  Take out those 6 extra girls, boys + girls (same number of each) = 32.

                  So there must be 16 boys + 16 girls + 6 extra girls.

                  Now let's check.

                  16 x $9 = $144
                  22 x $10 = $220

                  Total = $364. Yay!
                  Many thanks Autolycus !!

                  So I have to ask my P4 DD to guess guess with this type of question?

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                  • autolycusA Offline
                    autolycus
                    last edited by

                    pineapple tarts:
                    Many thanks Autolycus !!


                    So I have to ask my P4 DD to guess guess with this type of question?
                    Not really... ๐Ÿ™‚

                    Think of it this way. If they were all girls at $10, it would be too easy. But let's think about boys as girls with $1 discount ($9 instead of $10).

                    Then we are trying to find out how many people got a discount.

                    We know the total number = boys + girls = boys + (boys + 6).

                    So it is an even total number and it must be more than 36 (paid more than $360, right?). The next highest even number is 38.

                    If nobody got a discount, that's 38 x $10 = $380.

                    But the discount is $380-$364 = $16.

                    So we got total discount of $16, there must be 16 boys (each with $1 discount).

                    When we check, 16 boys + (16+6) girls, that also gives the same answer!

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                    • autolycusA Offline
                      autolycus
                      last edited by

                      I guess the point we can make is that for such problems, we can try many methods. It depends on what your DDโ€™s preferred way of thinking really is.


                      Hope that helps!

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                        kancheongmum
                        last edited by

                        pineapple tarts:
                        Good day Maths Guru,


                        I am stucked with this one.

                        A group of children paid a total of $364 for a trip. Each girl paid $10 and each boy paid a dollar less. If there were 6 girls more than boys, how many boys were there in the group?

                        Other than using the guessing method (draw the table), is there other solution?

                        Many thanks
                        Hi pineapple tarts

                        I have another method that use reasoning, alternative way of looking at this type of question.

                        Given that there were 6 more girls, we take away the amount paid by the 6 girls from the total $364

                        $364 - $60 = $304

                        So $304 is the amount paid by the equal no. of girls and boys.

                        1 group --- 1 boy and 1 girl --- $10 + $9 = $19

                        No. of group ---- $304/$19 ----- 16

                        So there are 16 boys and 22 girls

                        Hope this helps

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