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[MMM]

hquek:

Very true and this (bus fares) is likely to only go up and up.


Currently, we take less than 5 min to drive to school. I asked the bus uncle and he was going to charge me $50 for one way a month - thought it was ok (at least the dollar value).

In my nephew's case, it was $130 last year.... with the petrol,etc.... the price went up by $40 this year.

Yes... not forgetting that when the child has CCA, if your real address is far away, who is going to help with the logistics. Parents fail to consider the practical elements as the key focus is to get into the desired school.

For our case, my P4 takes the school bus home after CCA last year and that is $5 per trip. We have 4 SBS buses to school from our place so sometimes I get my maid to fetch her.

This year, I've 2 kids in the AM session and I told them that if both are staying back on the same day, it would cost $10 to take school bus. I told them, they might as well take a cab home. It might be even cheaper. Anyway, I will arrange my maid to bring them.

[dorisp]

Hi hquek, thanks for your advice.


Nowadays many have more than one property. One for own stay and the other rented out as investment. Since both properties are genuienly owned, the owner can choose which address to use for balloting and if successful, stay at this address during the child's school term. This situation seemed genuine and fair as the family really stayed there eventually. The only thing is, I am just curious if MOE or the school has the system to find out and query/notice the change of address during such short time (shortly after P2B and before P2C).

[Maia]

Thanks for explaining hquek.


Can we clarify one point please. If balloting fails at p2b within 1 km, we can still register at p2c within 1 km at TNS or NCPS? I understand proximity between home/sch distance still applies in phase 2c. Or we’ll be relegated to outside 2km because we ‘enjoyed’ proximity in an earlier phase? Thanks.

We’re also scared that in our quest for TNS, we cost our children a place at NCPS.

Dorisp, appreciated your finer points too as we seek to make sense of the system. The neighborhood police post would be rather busy updating addresses. My fear is that they impose some rules and we won’t be able to change in time.

[3Boys]

dorisp:

Hi hquek, thanks for your advice.


Nowadays many have more than one property. One for own stay and the other rented out as investment. Since both properties are genuienly owned, the owner can choose which address to use for balloting and if successful, stay at this address during the child's school term. This situation seemed genuine and fair as the family really stayed there eventually. The only thing is, I am just curious if MOE or the school has the system to find out and query/notice the change of address during such short time (shortly after P2B and before P2C).

Well, the best that can be said about this is not to be disingenuous about it. If you put an address down, you've got to be living in it at the time your child attends school there.

[3Boys]

Maia:

Thanks for explaining hquek.


Can we clarify one point please. If balloting fails at p2b within 1 km, we can still register at p2c within 1 km at TNS or NCPS? I understand proximity between home/sch distance still applies in phase 2c. Or we'll be relegated to outside 2km because we 'enjoyed' proximity in an earlier phase? Thanks.

We're also scared that in our quest for TNS, we cost our children a place at NCPS.

Dorisp, appreciated your finer points too as we seek to make sense of the system. The neighborhood police post would be rather busy updating addresses. My fear is that they impose some rules and we won't be able to change in time.

If you failed in 2B whilst you are within 1km (highly unlikely I would guess), what's the likelihood of getting in at 2C when its open to the public? The distance rule still applies, but now you are competing against a much larger pool.

[3Boys]

dorisp:

Hi Maia, I hope you do not mind if I quote your case to learn more about the system. My boy is due to register in 2012 too.


1) Suppose the address is changed to the one near TNS (address A) before P2B but subsequently failed in the ballot.

2) Before P2C, can one change the address to the one near NCPS (address B) and use Address B to try NCPS in P2C? Is there a central system where MOE or NCPS would realise that this child used address A to try for P2B and failed and now using address B for P2C for another school?

Is it ok when discoverd that one changes the address within a short span of time for this purpose?
:?
Appreciate all's advice with thanks.

If there wasn't already a rule preventing this type of maneuver, I would recommend that the authorities write it in!

Personally, I don't think you should be doing this......

[dorisp]

3Boys:

dorisp:

Hi Maia, I hope you do not mind if I quote your case to learn more about the system. My boy is due to register in 2012 too.


1) Suppose the address is changed to the one near TNS (address A) before P2B but subsequently failed in the ballot.

2) Before P2C, can one change the address to the one near NCPS (address B) and use Address B to try NCPS in P2C? Is there a central system where MOE or NCPS would realise that this child used address A to try for P2B and failed and now using address B for P2C for another school?

Is it ok when discoverd that one changes the address within a short span of time for this purpose?
:?
Appreciate all's advice with thanks.

If there wasn't already a rule preventing this type of maneuver, I would recommend that the authorities write it in!

Personally, I don't think you should be doing this......

We were just curious at how the system works with those with more than one properties.............btw, although we would love to, my DH and I are working hard but have yet the resources to secure a second property............ :oops:

[hquek]

3Boys:

If there wasn't already a rule preventing this type of maneuver, I would recommend that the authorities write it in!


Personally, I don't think you should be doing this......

Understand where you are coming from; but in this case, both properties are owned and the parents are intending to stay near where their kids' schools are. Work within the system? Sure. it's like those where sahm are given preference for PV work - how to say leh? Nothing is fair in this life - my conclusion.

[hquek]

Maia:

Thanks for explaining hquek.


Can we clarify one point please. If balloting fails at p2b within 1 km, we can still register at p2c within 1 km at TNS or NCPS? I understand proximity between home/sch distance still applies in phase 2c. Or we'll be relegated to outside 2km because we 'enjoyed' proximity in an earlier phase? Thanks.

We're also scared that in our quest for TNS, we cost our children a place at NCPS.

Dorisp, appreciated your finer points too as we seek to make sense of the system. The neighborhood police post would be rather busy updating addresses. My fear is that they impose some rules and we won't be able to change in time.

Maia, Just to clarify. Each phase is conducted independently of each other. You can enrol in 2B at TNS, and then 2C at NC. The distance factor kicks in only when demand for spaces exceeds the vacancies. This is not a lucky draw or game show where if you use your 'trump card' once, you cannot flash it again.

Honestly, I don't think the NPP will ask so many questions. Both properties are in your name and you can always show them the S&P. Just remember that if a property is tenanted out, it's likely it's been stamped with IRAS - so a bit hard to run; point of story: don't use it if you aint living there.

I can only envy you for owning 2 properties and being free to choose where you want to stay.

Just remember that 2C is likely way more difficult to go in than 2B - so use your bullets wisely.

Good luck with whereever you are aiming for.

[dorisp]

hquek:

3Boys:

If there wasn't already a rule preventing this type of maneuver, I would recommend that the authorities write it in!


Personally, I don't think you should be doing this......

Understand where you are coming from; but in this case, both properties are owned and the parents are intending to stay near where their kids' schools are. Work within the system? Sure. it's like those where sahm are given preference for PV work - how to say leh? Nothing is fair in this life - my conclusion.

A very good point, hquek! :goodpost: