2010 COPs for 2011 Sec One Intake
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justbehappy:
You are right, Agreed!3Boys:
but no track record leh....., plus as I said, limit intake, set admission test, and suddenly they are an elite school?? Seems a little far-fetched to me.
Who says they have no track record? In the 2010 International Olympiads for Science and Mathematics (most prestigious Math & Science competitions for high school students), NUS High garnered a total of 7 medals, same number as RI. Hwa Chong got 2 medals. Other JCs like VJC, NJC and IP schools like Dunman High and RV got nothing. http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2010/07/2010-international-olympiad-science-mathematics.php.
In the Singapore Maths Olympiad Junior Section, NUS High was the champion team for the last 2 years. Also, For Singapore Physics Olympiad, and the Junior Physics and Chemistry Olympiads, NUS High was one of the top two performing institutions, beating HCI pants off.
There are people out there who did not know much about NUS High but keep saying negative things against them. Feel that they 吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸! Next time if want to say negative things against someone, find out more or else really let people feel that you are .... :stupid: -
I have to say, all this defensiveness about one’s school (actually, children’s school) is befuddling and humorous at the same time.
It’s not as if the parents here had anything to do with setting up the curriculum, or school management, or select the teachers, or set strategy.
So, what’s up? Too difficult to hear a frank opinion about your child’s school, that could reduce your bragging rights as you go visiting during CNY?
C’mon…
Its a brand new school with a brave mission. And with an admirable strategy, and fantastic marketing. LVMH could do well to learn from NUSHS on how to market exclusivity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Top in math and science? What’s the big deal, did they not SPECIFICALLY select for those students? The shame would be if they were not.
As I said, I have no allegiances, this not my fight. I am a 15 minute walk from NUSHS. If my boys are bright enough, that’s one of the few for consideration, in a few years. And I will make the consideration based on whether the programme is right for my child, not how many awards or olympiads they have won.
But don’t make it out to be what it is not, that its better than traditional, that has yet to be proven. And as if that somehow rubs off on the kids as being top of the bunch and therefore by implication, testimony to the parenting prowess thereof. -
MumSAH:
You are right, Agreed!justbehappy:
[quote=\"3Boys\"]but no track record leh....., plus as I said, limit intake, set admission test, and suddenly they are an elite school?? Seems a little far-fetched to me.
Who says they have no track record? In the 2010 International Olympiads for Science and Mathematics (most prestigious Math & Science competitions for high school students), NUS High garnered a total of 7 medals, same number as RI. Hwa Chong got 2 medals. Other JCs like VJC, NJC and IP schools like Dunman High and RV got nothing. http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2010/07/2010-international-olympiad-science-mathematics.php.
In the Singapore Maths Olympiad Junior Section, NUS High was the champion team for the last 2 years. Also, For Singapore Physics Olympiad, and the Junior Physics and Chemistry Olympiads, NUS High was one of the top two performing institutions, beating HCI pants off.
There are people out there who did not know much about NUS High but keep saying negative things against them. Feel that they 吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸! Next time if want to say negative things against someone, find out more or else really let people feel that you are .... :stupid:[/quote]That's really uncalled for.....did I insult you in any way? What's the school to you other than a place to educate your children? -
Bragging?? We let our kids go to ths sch to learn n study not to brag.. Pls lah, not everyone got the same thinking as you....
Since you have such a negative feeling about ths sch, why did you say you will consider ths sch?????? Just in case, people asked why stay so near still cant get into this sch at least got excuses???? Top in Math and science, still no big deal???? Wow wow wow, so what is your big deal???3Boys:
:?I have to say, all this defensiveness about one's school (actually, children's school) is befuddling and humorous at the same time.
It's not as if the parents here had anything to do with setting up the curriculum, or school management, or select the teachers, or set strategy.
So, what's up? Too difficult to hear a frank opinion about your child's school, that could reduce your bragging rights as you go visiting during CNY?
C'mon....
Its a brand new school with a brave mission. And with an admirable strategy, and fantastic marketing. LVMH could do well to learn from NUSHS on how to market exclusivity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Top in math and science? What's the big deal, did they not SPECIFICALLY select for those students? The shame would be if they were not.
As I said, I have no allegiances, this not my fight. I am a 15 minute walk from NUSHS. If my boys are bright enough, that's one of the few for consideration, in a few years.
But don't make it out to be what it is not, that its better than traditional, that has yet to be proven. -
What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel’s specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I’ll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I’ll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later. -
MumSAH:
Phew! :siam:Bragging?? We let our kids go to ths sch to learn n study not to brag.. Pls lah, not everyone got the same thinking as you....
Since you have such a negative feeling about ths sch, why did you say you will consider ths sch?????? Just in case, people asked why stay so near still cant get into this sch at least got excuses???? Top in Math and science, still no big deal???? Wow wow wow, so what is your big deal???
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WeiHan:
I quite agree with WeiHan.What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel's specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I'll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I'll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later.
As a relatively new school, NUS High's achievements in the various international and national math and science competitions are considererd remarkable feats but it is too early to judge its success.
There are other areas that it is lacking, when compared with traditional schools. It is not a school which suits everyone. -
verykiasu2010:
NUS/NTU/SMU - Depends on your course. Some are based purely on A levels/NUSHS Dip/IB results (eg Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences), others have interviews/ aptitude tests. (eg Law, Medicine). Grade profiles range from BCC/B to AAA/A, depending on the subject
what is the benchmark to enter NUS / NTU / SMU or Oxford/Cambridge or the Ivy ?
Oxford/Cambridge - Academic interviews (compulsory), Sec 4 Grades, Predicted grades, Aptitude tests (eg TSA, LNAT, BMAT), Teacher recommendation, Personal Statement. All offers are AAA (or higher), regardless of subject.
Ivies - Extracurriculars, essays, alumni interview (optional), grades, teacher recommendations, SAT/ACT scores
The different schools have different selection criteria and policies. Why? Because they want different types of students (To generalize: Academically suited for Singapore/UK, all rounded/ exceptional achievements for US).
If we look at NUSHS, a child who is exceptionally talented in Maths & Science and less so in languages would have a higher chance of being admitted to DSA as opposed to RGS/NYGH/RI/HCI, which look more at all-rounders (assuming you DSA through general academics). NUSHS, like SOTA and SSP, is not for everyone by virtue of their specialization. They can't cater for an Arts-inclined student like me, for example.
Because of their specialty in Maths and Science, it makes more sense to do their own admissions tests rather than rely on PSLE central posting, which is a better measurement of how all-rounded a student is academically, not necessarily his/her talent in Maths & Science. Same basis for universities, especially Singapore/ UK. Grades only tell you so much about an applicant.
Ultimately, who cares if your school is \"elite\" or not, \"big deal\" or not? I come from \"elite\" schools and that doesn't make me any better than my peers. As long as the school has a good track record of producing students who are academically sound, of good character, and is able to fulfill the child's interests, it's fine. -
I 100% agreed with you! It is individual interest, no point saying all the negative things abt another school, please consider the feelings of the kids who studied there! Didnt we as a adult, should encourage them instead of keep saying all the negative things about the school.
micko07:
:celebrate:
NUS/NTU/SMU, - Depends on your course. Some are based purely on A levels/NUSHS Dip/IB results (eg Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences), others have interviews/ aptitude tests. (eg Law, Medicine). Grade profiles range from BCC/B to AAA/A, depending on the subjectverykiasu2010:
what is the benchmark to enter NUS / NTU / SMU or Oxford/Cambridge or the Ivy ?
Oxford/Cambridge - Academic interviews (compulsory), Sec 4 Grades, Predicted grades, Aptitude tests (eg TSA, LNAT, BMAT), Teacher recommendation, Personal Statement. All offers are AAA (or higher), regardless of subject.
Ivies - Extracurriculars, essays, alumni interview (optional), grades, teacher recommendations, SAT/ACT scores
The different schools have different selection criteria and policies. Why? Because they want different types of students (To generalize: Academically suited for Singapore/UK, all rounded/ exceptional achievements for US).
If we look at NUSHS, a child who is exceptionally talented in Maths & Science and less so in languages would have a higher chance of being admitted to DSA as opposed to RGS/NYGH/RI/HCI, which look more at all-rounders (assuming you DSA through general academics). NUSHS, like SOTA and SSP, is not for everyone by virtue of their specialization. They can't cater for an Arts-inclined student like me, for example.
Because of their specialty in Maths and Science, it makes more sense to do their own admissions tests rather than rely on PSLE central posting, which is a better measurement of how all-rounded a student is academically, not necessarily his/her talent in Maths & Science. Same basis for universities, especially Singapore/ UK. Grades only tell you so much about an applicant.
Ultimately, who cares if your school is \"elite\" or not, \"big deal\" or not? I come from \"elite\" schools and that doesn't make me any better than my peers. As long as the school has a good track record of producing students who are academically sound, of good character, and is able to fulfill the child's interests, it's fine. -
WeiHan:
My younger DD is only 1 weeks (discounting 1st week orientation) in NUSHS and I'm already in :salute: and a bit :siao: by the kind of Maths/Science curriculum the school is ditching out.What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel's specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I'll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I'll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later.
It is not your average school and the Math n science programme are indeed very much accelerated. DD said by end of year 2 class Mentor(teacher) said the class can take 'O\" level E/A maths exam liao..
I guess in another 2 months, DD will be catching up with certain topics my triple science Sec 3 'O' level DD has only just covered. In Biology, they are doing a special module on Ecosystem module with jargon like Energy transfer and thermodynamic of food chain.. cheem stuff .
As a matter of fact, I always feel my 'O' level Express DD sec 1/2 is kind of honeymoon stage (waste of time actually) ..actual learning of Math/Science only started in Sec 3 and Sec 4. Technically, year 2 student in NUSH can take 'O' level for maths, physics, biology and Chemistry. In a way, my younger DD would be a great source of help for older sister for \"O\" level examination.
DD also said GEP students will feel much at ease with the style teaching /JC methods and in particular the habits of note taking ( some mainstream frens :? ) and things like filing worksheet etc.
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