Your first choice for 2011 Secondary School...

[Tinkerbelle]

moomoo138:

Hi


Our DS is doing his PSLE this year and keen in getting into SJI. Does anyone know the actual COP this year?

Tks!!

Hi moomoo138,

According to this thread, SJI's COP this year is 241.

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17406&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

[Pen88n]

Tinkerbelle:

moomoo138:

Hi


Our DS is doing his PSLE this year and keen in getting into SJI. Does anyone know the actual COP this year?

Tks!!

Hi moomoo138,

According to this thread, SJI's COP this year is 241.

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17406&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

241 for non-affiliation. 238 for affiliated schools.

[moomoo138]

Tks Tinkerbelle & Pen88n... I manage to obtain a copy of MOE's information booklet - 'Choosing Your Sec School - for Admission to Sec 1 in 2011' and it was stated that the aggregate range is based on the 2009 PSLE pupils posted to 2010 Sec 1, thus have a few queries :

1) since it's only a guide, then what is the 'actual' COP for this year? Where can I get this info?
2) SJI is going IP in 2013, would the COP be higher then?
3) Read the SJI's thread but was unable to find out much about the school... appreciate some feedback on SJI? Curriculum? Culture? Good choice? etc...

Apologies if I'm on the wrong thread... :oops: kindly guide me onto the right path... Tks a mil!!!

[Pen88n]

moomoo138:

Tks Tinkerbelle & Pen88n... I manage to obtain a copy of MOE's information booklet - 'Choosing Your Sec School - for Admission to Sec 1 in 2011' and it was stated that the aggregate range is based on the 2009 PSLE pupils posted to 2010 Sec 1, thus have a few queries :

1) since it's only a guide, then what is the 'actual' COP for this year? Where can I get this info?
2) SJI is going IP in 2013, would the COP be higher then?
3) Read the SJI's thread but was unable to find out much about the school... appreciate some feedback on SJI? Curriculum? Culture? Good choice? etc...

Apologies if I'm on the wrong thread... :oops: kindly guide me onto the right path... Tks a mil!!!

Moomoo138,

I'll try to answer your questions based on my understanding and my personal opinion only. Others who may not agree please don't :heresmyfish: me.....

The Admission to Sec 1 in 2011 book is produced for the batch of Sec 1 in 2011 based on the COP of the past batch in 2010. Thus, it is not \"accurate\" as of that year - it is only a guide. Depending on that year's PSLE T-score overall performance, it will change. Similarly, a school may also get more \"popular\" and the COP will go up. You will not know the actual COP until after the S1 Posting because it is really depending on the applicant's and based on the applicants performance - you can call the school by then to find out (that's why there is the appeal process).

As to whether SJI's COP will go up, like what I said, depends on the cohort. This year the newly announced IP schools does seems to have higher COP - but again, it could also be due to cohort as well. Considering that SJI will have both IP and O Level track, I would guess that there will be separate COP (like ACSI) for these 2 tracks and of course, the IP track in 2013 will have higher COP (but your DS is in 2012 so not IP yet).

Last question I really can't answer as I have no experience with the school. Do you want to try posting your query in the SJI Sec Sch parents networking thread and they may be able to give you a better perspective?

[verykiasu2010]

Pen88n:

moomoo138:

Tks Tinkerbelle & Pen88n... I manage to obtain a copy of MOE's information booklet - 'Choosing Your Sec School - for Admission to Sec 1 in 2011' and it was stated that the aggregate range is based on the 2009 PSLE pupils posted to 2010 Sec 1, thus have a few queries :

1) since it's only a guide, then what is the 'actual' COP for this year? Where can I get this info?
2) SJI is going IP in 2013, would the COP be higher then?
3) Read the SJI's thread but was unable to find out much about the school... appreciate some feedback on SJI? Curriculum? Culture? Good choice? etc...

Apologies if I'm on the wrong thread... :oops: kindly guide me onto the right path... Tks a mil!!!

Moomoo138,

I'll try to answer your questions based on my understanding and my personal opinion only. Others who may not agree please don't :heresmyfish: me.....

The Admission to Sec 1 in 2011 book is produced for the batch of Sec 1 in 2011 based on the COP of the past batch in 2010. Thus, it is not \"accurate\" as of that year - it is only a guide. Depending on that year's PSLE T-score overall performance, it will change. Similarly, a school may also get more \"popular\" and the COP will go up. You will not know the actual COP until after the S1 Posting because it is really depending on the applicant's and based on the applicants performance - you can call the school by then to find out (that's why there is the appeal process).

As to whether SJI's COP will go up, like what I said, depends on the cohort. This year the newly announced IP schools does seems to have higher COP - but again, it could also be due to cohort as well. Considering that SJI will have both IP and O Level track, I would guess that there will be separate COP (like ACSI) for these 2 tracks and of course, the IP track in 2013 will have higher COP (but your DS is in 2012 so not IP yet).

Last question I really can't answer as I have no experience with the school. Do you want to try posting your query in the SJI Sec Sch parents networking thread and they may be able to give you a better perspective?

Good answer!

The book serves as a guide only. Having said that, it is observed that the cut off point remains rather consistent from year to year. (Comparing to 10 years ago could have a bigger difference). It fluctuates by one or two points, plus or minus.

If you check it on MOE website, you can see the COP for the last 4 years, but you have to click it year by year, tedious, but it gives you a good feel what the situation is like

[Tinkerbelle]

Pen88n:

moomoo138:

Tks Tinkerbelle & Pen88n... I manage to obtain a copy of MOE's information booklet - 'Choosing Your Sec School - for Admission to Sec 1 in 2011' and it was stated that the aggregate range is based on the 2009 PSLE pupils posted to 2010 Sec 1, thus have a few queries :

1) since it's only a guide, then what is the 'actual' COP for this year? Where can I get this info?
2) SJI is going IP in 2013, would the COP be higher then?
3) Read the SJI's thread but was unable to find out much about the school... appreciate some feedback on SJI? Curriculum? Culture? Good choice? etc...

Apologies if I'm on the wrong thread... :oops: kindly guide me onto the right path... Tks a mil!!!

Moomoo138,

I'll try to answer your questions based on my understanding and my personal opinion only. Others who may not agree please don't :heresmyfish: me.....

The Admission to Sec 1 in 2011 book is produced for the batch of Sec 1 in 2011 based on the COP of the past batch in 2010. Thus, it is not \"accurate\" as of that year - it is only a guide. Depending on that year's PSLE T-score overall performance, it will change. Similarly, a school may also get more \"popular\" and the COP will go up. You will not know the actual COP until after the S1 Posting because it is really depending on the applicant's and based on the applicants performance - you can call the school by then to find out (that's why there is the appeal process).

As to whether SJI's COP will go up, like what I said, depends on the cohort. This year the newly announced IP schools does seems to have higher COP - but again, it could also be due to cohort as well. Considering that SJI will have both IP and O Level track, I would guess that there will be separate COP (like ACSI) for these 2 tracks and of course, the IP track in 2013 will have higher COP (but your DS is in 2012 so not IP yet).

Last question I really can't answer as I have no experience with the school. Do you want to try posting your query in the SJI Sec Sch parents networking thread and they may be able to give you a better perspective?

Hi moomoo138,
pen88n and verykiasu2010 has covered your first 2 questions very well.

My friend's DS in currently in SJI sec 3. I don't know enough about the sch to comment about its curriculum but feedback from my friend's DS has been very positive. He really enjoys the sch culture and the boys are well-behaved and confident. My friend has commented that the teachers are very committed and supportive of the students. Back in Sec 1 when her DS was still adapting to the new sch and sec sch life, he struggled with his Higher MT but the teacher encouraged him not to give up, and now he's still doing his Higher MT (taking his O' levels for HMTL this Year) and taking triple science. My friend strongly feels that her DS would not have come this far without the sch & the teachers' support. She's a strong advocate for SJI and always recommends SJI to our circle of friends...Too bad I don't have a son..

[moomoo138]

Thank you all... Sorry, still abit :? , apart from the cohort factor, does that mean it's probably easier for our DS to get into SJI in 2012 (since IP only starts in 2013)? Or should he try DSA (heard it's time consuming process)? How does IP works, would DS still stand a chance to go onto the IP track in Sec 2 when they starts their IP in 2013? Yeah... heard some positive feedback from his teachers. They think the school culture (whatever that is) suits our DS perfectly.


So sorry, DS is the first in the family to experience this new programme, all his cousins are either older or younger, no one is able to advice or share experience with. Currently, DS is not serious with his PSLE preparation really hope that he can 'wake up' soon... Since he doesn't attend any tuition class, probably have to plan for 1 month no-pay-leave in Sept to help him liao. Am not asking for much, just good enough to get into SJI.

[mdmtay]

Chung Cheng (Main) will be my first choice, should I not get into Dunman High. Cos’ many of my senior friends are there.

Cedar Girls’ will be 2nd, as it is near my house…

[x3Kenzou]

I would say CHS is the best choice. It is near to almost everyone. It focus of bilingualism. And its a good school.


I myself is a CHS student. (im not biased…)

[ksasalways]

moomoo138:

Thank you all... Sorry, still abit :? , apart from the cohort factor, does that mean it's probably easier for our DS to get into SJI in 2012 (since IP only starts in 2013)? Or should he try DSA (heard it's time consuming process)? How does IP works, would DS still stand a chance to go onto the IP track in Sec 2 when they starts their IP in 2013? Yeah... heard some positive feedback from his teachers. They think the school culture (whatever that is) suits our DS perfectly.


So sorry, DS is the first in the family to experience this new programme, all his cousins are either older or younger, no one is able to advice or share experience with. Currently, DS is not serious with his PSLE preparation really hope that he can 'wake up' soon... Since he doesn't attend any tuition class, probably have to plan for 1 month no-pay-leave in Sept to help him liao. Am not asking for much, just good enough to get into SJI.

I did not follow thru the entire thread to know the full picture. However, on your note about motivating your kid for PSLE...something to share.

I brought my 1st DS for open houses of schools that he show slight interest in but unclear what....that was done when he was at Pri 5.

Moving in the crowd, seeing the CCA, how the boys behaved, listening to the type of questions the P6sers at that point were asking did open up his mind a fair bit and definitely helped clear his doubts and prompted him to find out more about PSLE and Sec 1.

But again, all kids are 'made' differently...hope this will come in helpful.