Edusave Scholarship Award
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I wonder for secondary school scholarship, will the top 10% include those foreign scholars who are already on scholarship studying in the same school? The computation of the top 10% if include them, though they are not eligible for it, will make less available for our locals.
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There are many different types of bursary and scholarship given out to the students and I am rather confused. I would just talk about the bursary given to the top 25% of the students. I understand your child will not qualify if you earn more than 4k (your household income, for that matter) even if he/she is the top student. I also understand this apply to P1-P4.
For P5 and P6, if your child is top 10% in the school, hooray, you child is qualify for monetary award of $350 or $400 depending on whether he/she is top 5% or top 10%. In this case income level no longer come into play.
So far so good and my question is how about the supposedly top 1% of each year’s cohort. These are the students in the GEP and since they are the perceived top 1%, does that mean they receive the award as a matter of course? Or do they have to be top 10% in their GEP cohort in order to receive the award?
Another point is if they have to be top 10% of the GEP to receive the award, wouldn’t it be a tad unfair because if they remain in the mainstream, it is highly that they will be among the top 10% and they would qualify for the award easily?
Anyone can enlighten? I am really curious. -
HVR:
The edusave bursary has a household income qualification, as you mentioned, $4kThere are many different types of bursary and scholarship given out to the students and I am rather confused. I would just talk about the bursary given to the top 25% of the students. I understand your child will not qualify if you earn more than 4k (your household income, for that matter) even if he/she is the top student. I also understand this apply to P1-P4.
For P5 and P6, if your child is top 10% in the school, hooray, you child is qualify for monetary award of $350 or $400 depending on whether he/she is top 5% or top 10%. In this case income level no longer come into play.
So far so good and my question is how about the supposedly top 1% of each year's cohort. These are the students in the GEP and since they are the perceived top 1%, does that mean they receive the award as a matter of course? Or do they have to be top 10% in their GEP cohort in order to receive the award?
Another point is if they have to be top 10% of the GEP to receive the award, wouldn't it be a tad unfair because if they remain in the mainstream, it is highly that they will be among the top 10% and they would qualify for the award easily?
Anyone can enlighten? I am really curious.
for edusave scholarship, there is no income qualifier, as it is named, scholarship
have not heard of scholarship for top 1% GEP. May be you are referring to the EESIS for the top 1/3 of each cohort that enters IP school - meant to help defray the high fees of independent school, regardless of GEP or mainstream, as long as you are the top 1/3 of those who enter independent school, then there is also bursary for the independent school.
go check MOE website for details -
HVR:
answering to your above question...Only the top 10% of p5 gep and p6 gep in your kids school are qualify for the Edusave scholarship. For example if your kids school has 50 p5 gep. So the top 10% = 5 gep students will qualify for the scholarship..Kind of Unfair right.....but what to do..this is the criterial set.... :roll:So far so good and my question is how about the supposedly top 1% of each year's cohort. These are the students in the GEP and since they are the perceived top 1%, does that mean they receive the award as a matter of course? Or do they have to be top 10% in their GEP cohort in order to receive the award?
Another point is if they have to be top 10% of the GEP to receive the award, wouldn't it be a tad unfair because if they remain in the mainstream, it is highly that they will be among the top 10% and they would qualify for the award easily?
Anyone can enlighten? I am really curious. -
Hi thanks. I am aware of EESIS but that's not what I'm referring to. I am saying the GEP students are deemed to be the top 1% of their respective cohorts because MOE said only top 1% will be drafted into GEP. On the other hand, the Edusave scholarship is awarded to top 10% of P5 and P6 students in each school. That being the case, where do GEP students stand? They are deemed to be top 1% but no Edusave award because they are in GEP? Or must they be top 10% in their GEP school/cohort to qualify for Edusave scholarship? That prompt me to ask as I am very curious to know.
verykiasu2010:
The edusave bursary has a household income qualification, as you mentioned, $4k
for edusave scholarship, there is no income qualifier, as it is named, scholarship
have not heard of scholarship for top 1% GEP. May be you are referring to the EESIS for the top 1/3 of each cohort that enters IP school - meant to help defray the high fees of independent school, regardless of GEP or mainstream, as long as you are the top 1/3 of those who enter independent school, then there is also bursary for the independent school.
go check MOE website for details -
vlim:
where to find the information on what you quoted ?
answering to your above question...Only the top 10% of p5 gep and p6 gep in your kids school are qualify for the Edusave scholarship. For example if your kids school has 50 p5 gep. So the top 10% = 5 gep students will qualify for the scholarship..Kind of Unfair right.....but what to do..this is the criterial set.... :roll:HVR:
So far so good and my question is how about the supposedly top 1% of each year's cohort. These are the students in the GEP and since they are the perceived top 1%, does that mean they receive the award as a matter of course? Or do they have to be top 10% in their GEP cohort in order to receive the award?
Another point is if they have to be top 10% of the GEP to receive the award, wouldn't it be a tad unfair because if they remain in the mainstream, it is highly that they will be among the top 10% and they would qualify for the award easily?
Anyone can enlighten? I am really curious. -
HVR:
ya the MOE website says top 5% or 10% of each stream....Hi thanks. I am aware of EESIS but that's not what I'm referring to. I am saying the GEP students are deemed to be the top 1% of their respective cohorts because MOE said only top 1% will be drafted into GEP. On the other hand, the Edusave scholarship is awarded to top 10% of P5 and P6 students in each school. That being the case, where do GEP students stand? They are deemed to be top 1% but no Edusave award because they are in GEP? Or must they be top 10% in their GEP school/cohort to qualify for Edusave scholarship? That prompt me to ask as I am very curious to know.
verykiasu2010:
The edusave bursary has a household income qualification, as you mentioned, $4k
for edusave scholarship, there is no income qualifier, as it is named, scholarship
have not heard of scholarship for top 1% GEP. May be you are referring to the EESIS for the top 1/3 of each cohort that enters IP school - meant to help defray the high fees of independent school, regardless of GEP or mainstream, as long as you are the top 1/3 of those who enter independent school, then there is also bursary for the independent school.
go check MOE website for details
so may be you are thinking is it better to be top 10% in mianstream to get the $350 or $400 or to stay in GEP which may not get the $350 or $400 ?
i believe the cost of running the GEP program is already more than $400 extra per child per year -
verykiasu2010:
where to find the information on what you quoted ?[/quote]Earlier, a few parents have mentioned that in this thread,,,My ds has got this Edusave scholarship last yr and it mentioned is the top 10%...plus mainstream papers are diff from gep papers..so it should be what I have mentioned..
answering to your above question...Only the top 10% of p5 gep and p6 gep in your kids school are qualify for the Edusave scholarship. For example if your kids school has 50 p5 gep. So the top 10% = 5 gep students will qualify for the scholarship..Kind of Unfair right.....but what to do..this is the criterial set.... :roll:vlim:
[quote=\"HVR\"]So far so good and my question is how about the supposedly top 1% of each year's cohort. These are the students in the GEP and since they are the perceived top 1%, does that mean they receive the award as a matter of course? Or do they have to be top 10% in their GEP cohort in order to receive the award?
Another point is if they have to be top 10% of the GEP to receive the award, wouldn't it be a tad unfair because if they remain in the mainstream, it is highly that they will be among the top 10% and they would qualify for the award easily?
Anyone can enlighten? I am really curious. -
verykiasu2010:
ya the MOE website says top 5% or 10% of each stream....HVR:
Hi thanks. I am aware of EESIS but that's not what I'm referring to. I am saying the GEP students are deemed to be the top 1% of their respective cohorts because MOE said only top 1% will be drafted into GEP. On the other hand, the Edusave scholarship is awarded to top 10% of P5 and P6 students in each school. That being the case, where do GEP students stand? They are deemed to be top 1% but no Edusave award because they are in GEP? Or must they be top 10% in their GEP school/cohort to qualify for Edusave scholarship? That prompt me to ask as I am very curious to know.
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
The edusave bursary has a household income qualification, as you mentioned, $4k
for edusave scholarship, there is no income qualifier, as it is named, scholarship
have not heard of scholarship for top 1% GEP. May be you are referring to the EESIS for the top 1/3 of each cohort that enters IP school - meant to help defray the high fees of independent school, regardless of GEP or mainstream, as long as you are the top 1/3 of those who enter independent school, then there is also bursary for the independent school.
go check MOE website for details
so may be you are thinking is it better to be top 10% in mianstream to get the $350 or $400 or to stay in GEP which may not get the $350 or $400 ?
i believe the cost of running the GEP program is already more than $400 extra per child per year[/quote]I also believe the scholarship is meant for top x% of students in each stream, so as to encourage the students to excel in whichever stream / level they are in.
Like what VeryKiasu2010 mentioned, the cost of running the GEP program is much higher than the normal and GEP students already enjoy the benefit of this program. If basing on the fact that they are top 1%, then all the GEP students will qualify for the scholarship without even having to put in any effort to reach their \"top\" / \"best\". Come to Sec Sch, this same issue is going to surface again for IP / express top 5% / 10%.
I think we need to recognise the top of the different streams of students for their effort in reaching the top in the stream - be it GEP / mainstream / IP / express, etc. It's just like being in the \"top\" class and not being the top 3 to get the prize, being in the \"top\" school and not being in the top 10% to get the scholarship, etc.......this type of comparison is endless.
In my personal opinion, I really do not think this should become a question of fairness of the scholarship award. What is important is the value imparted to the kid - if you work hard and put in effort, you will get rewarded ultimately in life, in some form or other. -
Agree totally. I understand the cost of running GEP is already high and the top 1% shouldn't get the reward by default. Just hope the students can contribute back to the Soceity when they are ready. I was just curious how award recipient for GEPer is determined. Thks everyone for clearing the air.
Pen88n:
I also believe the scholarship is meant for top x% of students in each stream, so as to encourage the students to excel in whichever stream / level they are in.
ya the MOE website says top 5% or 10% of each stream....verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"HVR\"]Hi thanks. I am aware of EESIS but that's not what I'm referring to. I am saying the GEP students are deemed to be the top 1% of their respective cohorts because MOE said only top 1% will be drafted into GEP. On the other hand, the Edusave scholarship is awarded to top 10% of P5 and P6 students in each school. That being the case, where do GEP students stand? They are deemed to be top 1% but no Edusave award because they are in GEP? Or must they be top 10% in their GEP school/cohort to qualify for Edusave scholarship? That prompt me to ask as I am very curious to know.
so may be you are thinking is it better to be top 10% in mianstream to get the $350 or $400 or to stay in GEP which may not get the $350 or $400 ?
i believe the cost of running the GEP program is already more than $400 extra per child per year
Like what VeryKiasu2010 mentioned, the cost of running the GEP program is much higher than the normal and GEP students already enjoy the benefit of this program. If basing on the fact that they are top 1%, then all the GEP students will qualify for the scholarship without even having to put in any effort to reach their \"top\" / \"best\". Come to Sec Sch, this same issue is going to surface again for IP / express top 5% / 10%.
I think we need to recognise the top of the different streams of students for their effort in reaching the top in the stream - be it GEP / mainstream / IP / express, etc. It's just like being in the \"top\" class and not being the top 3 to get the prize, being in the \"top\" school and not being in the top 10% to get the scholarship, etc.......this type of comparison is endless.
In my personal opinion, I really do not think this should become a question of fairness of the scholarship award. What is important is the value imparted to the kid - if you work hard and put in effort, you will get rewarded ultimately in life, in some form or other.[/quote]
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