Indonesian maid salary to be increased to $450???

[DesertWind]

angelia286:

Just to share my experience with you on raising my child from birth to his present age of 1 year.

Hi angelia286,

Just to say that I am touched by what you have shared. I have not read anything in this thread (what maid or no maid?) except your posting.

I can only say that I NEED my maid. She is worth every cent I am paying her to look after my 3+ yo boy and to do housework so that I can go to work full-time.

Jia You, Jia You, all the best angelia!

:celebrate:

[laughingcat]

DesertWind:

I can only say that I NEED my maid. She is worth every cent I am paying her to look after my 3+ yo boy and to do housework so that I can go to work full-time.

Me Too! I echoed that too. I need the additional support so that both my hubby and myself can work full time peacefully.

[phankao]

angelia286:

For myself, I was first raised by my grandmother, thereafter my 9th uncle and sometimes my 3rd uncle or even my 1st aunty. At times, my 4th aunty would step in to help out too.. all without demands of money.

My brother and I were both given 50cents as pocket money from primary school all the way to secondary school (where sometimes we will even go hungry as we do not have the money to buy food. My friends who were luckier have to help me buy stationaries and share their food with me). By the time I was 16, I was made to work and study at the same time. Straight after school, i will work at Mos Burger till the wee hours of 2 or 3am and then go home to study. By the 3rd year of my tertiary studies, I was soon unable to keep up with my schoolwork. My studies suffered. I was forced not to go to university due to the lack of money and my mother's selfishness.

Due to a lack of proper guidance, my brother and I were both rebellious as children and we have totally zero respect for my mother.

I can totally understand about the childraising since I was totally in depression for about 2 years with the 1st child, totally exhausted too. And now with the 4th, am even more so from resentment. I guess that's the most depressing.

As for childhood, yeah, most of us grew up by ourselves, right? I was left on my own alone at home from 2+years old onwards during the day when mum was at work (dad passed away just before I was born) and when my elder siblings were at school. Certainly cannot afford to pay have anyone look after me, right? Even grandmother worked! So we all chipped in with taking care of the house/laundry/ironing and marketing as well, even from very young. Isn't that the norm in those days? Not everyone has grandparents who willingly look after.

Definitely all of us siblings looked for jobs by the time we were in secondary school, and throughout our holidays. I started giving tuition from 14years of age. Thankfully too. Regular tuition jobs plus holiday jobs helped me support myself through until I graduated from university. It built in me the inability to accept any help though. I just believed only in myself. Trying hard to build this same resilience in our kids, but sadly, their lives are way too cushy compared to ours in those days. Altho' when our kids compare themselves to their friends from much smaller families, they come up short.

But then, why compare? We just deal with it, right?

[3Boys]

It maids be the crutch forever, how do you expect


......your husbands (and future husbands for your daughters) to change?

......your employers to change?

......local help to become plentiful and available?

By caving in to the problems we face at present, do we not propagate them for the future?

How could I not understand what the issues are when the wife I love dearly manages the household with my help? Don't ever question that if you have no knowledge of me or what goes on in my family.

Just because one voices an alternative opinion does not mean that one needs to attacked.

Sheesh :roll:

[verykiasu2010]

angelia286


if you need a maid, go get one and be happy with it to be able to help you in many ways and to liberate you to be more economically productive

don’t have to be bothered by what others say about needing / not needing a maid. after seeing others’ comments and you re-evaluate your decision process and you still come to the same conclusion - be at peace with it.

[dimsum]

Angelia, Jia You! Hope you can get more and more hours of sleep :ugogirl:

[tamarind]

Anyway, I don’t know why we are discussing whether a maid is a necessity or not in this thread, it is not relevant. Of course people who reads this thread need maids, otherwise there is no need to complain about the increase in pay.

[3Boys]

angelia286:

I read with interest your responses to this discussion of the wage increase of our Indonesian, inexperienced maids. It is apparent that you are quite anti on the women who sees maids as a luxury and not a necessity.

Just to share my experience with you on raising my child from birth to his present age of 1 year.

Dear angelia,
if it work for you, and you can manage it, then go for it.

At no point in any of my posts did I say that working women should not get a maid. I have one myself, it would be hypocrisy.

I do have an issue with the contention that maids are an absolute necessity for ALL working women, and therefore, their wages need to be kept low in order to make them affordable for EVERYBODY. I have a real issue with the fairness of such a construct or the implied entitlement culture it engenders. If you children grow up in an environment where maids do everything, what sort of husband or wife would they be to their future spouses? How will we ever get out of the maid dependency culture we now saddle ourselves with. Yes, we can choose to only focus on our own internal issues, but there are wide implications too.

Good luck, glad you maid has made a difference in your life.

[toddles]

angelia286:

As for me, I was left with the burden of paying off every single expenses and also the rental money to my mother and at the same time, to do housework and also to look after my baby all by myself.

After 1 week of NO SLEEP at all and NO HELP from anybody, I literally collasped, sinking into a deep depression.

So sorry to hear your story... this is worse than being a single parent... reminds me of the saying that women's greatest fear is 怕嫁错郎...

your mum forces you to pay rental cos your family stays in her house?

really feel very sympathetic for your situation. Hope things get better soon for you.

[CJS]

There are people who have grown up children (already working or married off), stays in a HDB flat but keeps a dog and have a maid to look after the dog. Wat do you think ? I personally think this is not money wisely spent and totally unnecessary.