PM Lee urges more babies in Year of Rabbit

[laughingcat]

phankao:

buds:

[quote=\"phankao\"]
And what makes you think we have grandparents able to look after our children? How about being the one that is responsible to look after the children on our own? If not, why would I talk about exhaustion and stress?

Gee, I do have my MIL staying with us, but no, she is not relied on to do the cooking, marketing, looking after grandchildren. She is incapable of doing so.

What i think phankao is referring to is that while many may have grandparents
how many of them are truly wanting to care for the grandchildren be responsible
caregivers? That said, the ideals of a responsible grandparent may be subjective
between one person and another's.

Nope, that's not what I am talking about. I think one parent was saying that some of those who have grandparents very \"ho miah\" so why complain?

For us, our children's grandparents are *incapable* of helping even though they are around. Don't ask me to Help them good enough already, man![/quote]

mamemo:

...we cannot expect our parents to look after our kids. It's a bonus if they do. hmm, i'm not sure if I would want to look after my grandchildren when I'm old. Play ok, but look after...haha, must think twice.

Precisely that is my earlier argument.....it is lucky and a bonus for some who have grandparents to help out. Be it doing marketing, cooking or taking care of children or looking out for children in a short while......still comes in handy. Perhaps it is too early to tell.....but when I am a granny, I will be glad to help.

laughingcat:

Not everyone is as lucky as you - having parents to stay with you and do the marketing and cooking. For some who does not have the grandparental support, having a maid is a necessity.

laughingcat:

I hope there are more support in terms of maid levy......hoping the government can look further in optimising the current scheme in taking a bolder measure in considering the maid levy for parents who have 2 or more kids. And not just monetary system such as baby bonus. Having a robust system for long run to me is having better supports. With today higher inflation, it is quite difficult for any single-income-young-family to manage especially for families with more than 1 kid.

For those who does not have such support, either quit to be SAHM/D or engaging a maid or sending kids to CC are one of the few options right. But heh.....this is what most parents are doing right.

So my earlier point of argument was to hope that the government can consider a much bolder measures that is lifting the maid levy for parents with 2 or more kids. That was what I am talking about. Nothing in my statement or sharing about \"those who have grandparents very \"ho miah\"\". You have definitely mis-read or mis-interpret.

Call me that I am \"reliance on maid\".....I don't give a hoot. My household needed that coz it is impossible to have a single income. Also I want to give my children full attention and less quarrel with hubby. As life is short, family unity matters.

[laughingcat]

phankao:

mamemo:

and there are other expenses. Child care (if both parents are working), food (more ex if both parents are working and no time to cook 3 dishes and 1 soup)

If both parents are working then the INCOME will be greater too, so can't compare with families like ours where only 1 parent is working.

phankao is correct that cannot compare between families with dual and single income. The difference are so wide. If anyone choose to become SAHM, I am sure you can save quite alot.

In general, I believe most of the expenses go to childcare (cheapest I ever find is $600 for whole day and 10% discount for sibling), enrichment classes, car (for some), housing loan, medical fees (family plus extended families), food and maid. Some very good PCFs charge about $300 (like Tamarind's kids).

[mamemo]

phankao:

mamemo:

and there are other expenses. Child care (if both parents are working), food (more ex if both parents are working and no time to cook 3 dishes and 1 soup)

If both parents are working then the INCOME will be greater too, so can't compare with families like ours where only 1 parent is working.

Yup, income greater, but there are other trade offs like time spent with the children, housework, additional stress from work.

Therefore, it's really the family's choices and expectations.

[laughingcat]

mamemo:

Yup, income greater, but there are other trade offs like time spent with the children, housework, additional stress from work.


Therefore, it's really the family's choices and expectations.

Yeah.... almost 4 times per week I need to do night telecom at 11.30pm.

[laughingcat]

Daddies......watch out......\"AWARE calls for paternity leave to be mandated by law\" :celebrate:


http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4630671

[Chenonceau]

laughingcat:

Daddies......watch out......\"AWARE calls for paternity leave to be mandated by law\" :celebrate:


http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4630671

Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!

[toddles]

Chenonceau:

laughingcat:

Daddies......watch out......\"AWARE calls for paternity leave to be mandated by law\" :celebrate:


http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4630671

Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!

wow someone from aware read your post eh, Chenonceau?

but then again their 'survey' was done quite long ago...

fathers should be real happy with this news!

[sunset_dae]

I heard govt will revamp existing maternity benefits and it will be announced on 18 Feb. Is this true?

[Chenonceau]

toddles:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"laughingcat\"]Daddies......watch out......\"AWARE calls for paternity leave to be mandated by law\" :celebrate:


http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4630671

Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!

wow someone from aware read your post eh, Chenonceau?

but then again their 'survey' was done quite long ago...

fathers should be real happy with this news![/quote]whoa... so effective meh... lidat I will write even more policy commentary .... mwahahahahaha!

Fathers won't take leave lah... Must have policy to CUT mother's leave if fathers don't take. Now I sure hope AWARE reads this. Heeeeee!

[hquek]

Chenonceau:

Fathers won't take leave lah... Must have policy to CUT mother's leave if fathers don't take. Now I sure hope AWARE reads this. Heeeeee!

Sorry, but fathers take paternity leave MUST be to take care of kids - not their pets or farm in FB hor.