Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[LOLMum]

3Boys:

LOLMum:

give free legal advice and get a confirmed place in p1? no, if he is a pv and there is no need for balloting at phase 2b. yes, if he is not a pv, didnt go thru balloting (if dd exceeds ss) like the rest.

if it is not breaking the law, then shouldnt all pv be guaranteed a place and not go for balloting?

Now apply the above to the rationalizations by a few forumers about why alumni should be given priority at Phase 2A. It was stated that SOME alumni are active contributors to the functioning of the school and school culture, and therefore ALL alumni should be granted priority admission at Phase 2A.

Given that under the current system, that is de facto a confirmed place in P1, how does.......

LOLMum:

give free legal advice and get a confirmed place in p1? no,

be consistent with that? I.e. How is the act of active contribution as a rationalisation to preserve guaranteed admission in 2A any different from a straightforward contribution to ensure a guaranteed admission? Or is it NOT an adequate rationalisation, and therefore 2A needs to be parsed out between active and inactive?

Just a discussion. Not taking this personally with you hor?

not to worry about getting personal, we are afterall adults with common sense. in a healthy debate, you have the right to be offended and i have the right to offend you. that's way to get people to use the grey cells.

i must admit i have not noted the part about board advisor in phase 2a being guaranteed a confirmed place. i always thought of phase 2a as alumni members (active and nonactive) as like in my many discussions with friends and teachers.

now that does seem unfair in phase 2a. have to give it a thought and chat with friends to find out more.

[dorisp]

3Boys:

Do you agree in principle that NOT all that are eligible under current Phase 2A should be equally deserving for priority places.

I support that there should be differentiation in this Phase (2A) between those 'deserving\" and those \"not deserving\". But in reality, and from practicality to execution, it is very hard to quantify. And when the much extra effort to execute and to differentiate outweight the good intentions where this suggestion is originally intended, it may be an uphill task to get it through. :lol:

[Busymom]

3Boys:

Lets extend the concept a little. How about contributions that will normally cost $$. Say a lawyer that contributes legal counsel over a few months, for a priority place. Is that considered 'buying' a place?

Just thinking along the line of some of the earlier arguements, wouldn't this cause an even greater divide between the haves and the have-nots, if phase 2A also has to go through such a filtering process?

Personally for me, I do see a difference between a lawyer providing legal counsel in order to get a chance at phase 2B, as opposed to someone donating a large sum of money to the school to build a certain facility in order to get a chance at phase 2B. Both do not have a guaranteed place, but in the case of the latter, the person doesn't even have to sweat one bit, and the donation may just be loose change to him to begin with. :roll:

[Busymom]

LOLMum:

give free legal advice and get a confirmed place in p1? no, if he is a pv and there is no need for balloting at phase 2b. yes, if he is not a pv, didnt go thru balloting (if dd exceeds ss) like the rest.

if it is not breaking the law, then shouldnt all pv be guaranteed a place and not go for balloting?

I think you saying that it is fine if he has to go through balloting like everyone else, but not fine if he is guaranteed a place without having to go through balloting?

What is the context - phase 2A or 2B? :?

[LOLMum]

Busymom:

I think you saying that it is fine if he has to go through balloting like everyone else, but not fine if he is guaranteed a place without having to go through balloting?


What is the context - phase 2A or 2B? :?

my answer was directed at this phase 2b.

but another parent kindly remind me about phase 2a whereby the forgotten group (i forgot about this highly invisible group) has confirmed places without needing to offer $$$. the forgotten group by me in phase 2a besides the frequently talked about alumni members is the board members.

so do these board members deserved a confirmed place in the school at phase 2a?

anyone/????

i went thru the posts again and realised i did answer a post on board member hanging onto the post for a decade.... dont know why this group keep slipping off my mind.

p.s. really hooked on this topic....... someone better :clubmyself: me before i go :siao:

[mummy168]

IMO, sub-divide 2A into active and inactive be it alumni or Board members. Priority confirmed registration only for ‘Active’.

This way, there will not be free rider and those who really contribute are also rewarded.

[h530251]

mummy168:

IMO, sub-divide 2A into active and inactive be it alumni or Board members. Priority confirmed registration only for 'Active'.

This way, there will not be free rider and those who really contribute are also rewarded.

Alumni should be treated as PV and take away 2A

[janet88]

I am pretty hooked too. The much talk about is alumni ie phase 2A1. For phase 2A2, this is for children of old boys/girls, siblings and children of staff. Anyone against this?

[LOLMum]

this is on moe website (2005) giving a general description of the duties of this group in phase 2a


School Advisory/Management Committee
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1) Serves in an advisory and voluntary capacity to support school programmes, functions and activities

2) Offers sponsorship and helps the school raise funds for developmental, infrastructural and enrichment activities to benefit students and staff

3)Provides links and encourages networking between the school on the one hand and the community, industry and parents on the other for mutual benefit and quality education

4) Acts as role model of active citizenship for students

5) Provides moral support and encouragement to the Principal and staff

after speaking to some friends cum teachers, seem that the duties and responsibilities are more complex than a pv.

as it deals with the more complex issues of running a school, many of these people are mainly professionals and not just plucked out from the street. how to be a member? you have to call moe or school to find out.

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hi janet_lee88

The much talk about is alumni ie phase 2A1. For phase 2A2, this is for children of old boys/girls, siblings and children of staff. Anyone against this} quote}

yes, the much talk was about alumni :lol: .

thus i am still sticking to my original decision which is all in phase 2a should be given confirmed places in registration of p1.

[janet88]

LOLMum:

School Advisory/Management Committee

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1) Serves in an advisory and voluntary capacity to support school programmes, functions and activities

2) Offers sponsorship and helps the school raise funds for developmental, infrastructural and enrichment activities to benefit students and staff

3)Provides links and encourages networking between the school on the one hand and the community, industry and parents on the other for mutual benefit and quality education

4) Acts as role model of active citizenship for students

5) Provides moral support and encouragement to the Principal and staff

after speaking to some friends cum teachers, seem that the duties and responsibilities are more complex than a pv.

as it deals with the more complex issues of running a school, many of these people are mainly professionals and not just plucked out from the street. how to be a member? you have to call moe or school to find out.

thus i am still sticking to my original decision which is all in phase 2a should be given confirmed places in registration of p1.

After reading the responsibilities of what members in Phase 2A1 have, I'm convinced that all kids under Phase 1 and Phase 2A1/2 should be confirmed of places during P1 registration.