PM Lee urges more babies in Year of Rabbit

[phankao]

tamarind:

phankao:

[quote=\"tamarind\"] If she loves kids, then she should not bring so many to this world to suffer. She should have gone for tubal ligation after she gave birth to the first baby.

Think of it this way. If God didn't want her to have all those kids, she wouldn't.

There is something called birth control pills.[/quote]Nevermind - that too is not natural.

[tamarind]

phankao:

Nevermind - that too is not natural.

It is better than letting all her kids sleep on the concrete floor.

[phankao]

tamarind:

phankao:

Nevermind - that too is not natural.

It is better than letting all her kids sleep on the concrete floor.

Maybe that's how God wanted it to be? Sometimes it's really better to \"judge not\".

[tamarind]

China did the right thing by enforcing the one child policy. Many kids are spared from a life of poverty and misery.


BTW, I am a Buddhist, so I don’t share your views.

[phankao]

tamarind:

China did the right thing by enforcing the one child policy. Many kids are spared from a life of poverty and misery.


BTW, I am a Buddhist, so I don't share your views.

Well, can also say it's \"heaven's wish\", right? Or \"divine will\". I have friends who have 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 children and have to live frugally. And while I don't share their strong faith in believing in whatever they are \"blessed with\", I don't think it fair to judge their lifestyle.

[tamarind]

phankao:

tamarind:

China did the right thing by enforcing the one child policy. Many kids are spared from a life of poverty and misery.


BTW, I am a Buddhist, so I don't share your views.

Well, can also say it's \"heaven's wish\", right? Or \"divine will\". I have friends who have 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 children and have to live frugally. And while I don't share their strong faith in believing in whatever they are \"blessed with\", I don't think it fair to judge their lifestyle.

That is Taoism, not Buddhism.

Let's not drag religion into this.

I am talking about so poor until there is not enough to eat. It's common sense.

[phankao]

tamarind:

I am talking about so poor until there is not enough to eat. It's common sense.

So I suppose you'd like it like in China in the regime? Only those who have approved certificates can have babies at a certain period in time too (expire got to apply again). If out of the certificate validity then have to abort even if at full term as it's not an authorised baby?

[tamarind]

phankao:

tamarind:

I am talking about so poor until there is not enough to eat. It's common sense.

So I suppose you'd like it like in China in the communist days? Only those who have approved certificates can have babies at a certain period in time too (expire got to apply again). If out of the certificate validity then have to abort even if at full term as it's not an authorised baby?

China is still in the communist days. Parents are still not allowed to give birth to more than one child. The only exception now is that if both parents are the only child, then they can give birth to 2, but not more than that. The parents simply lose their jobs when they have a second baby.

BTW, rich people in China can still have babies. They just have to pay huge fines to the government when they give birth to more than one children. I met a man who has 3 daughters and one son, he has his own business, and he can afford to pay.

Anyway, I am not saying that Singapore should have this policy. I just wish that people can have more common sense.

[phankao]

tamarind:

phankao:

[quote=\"tamarind\"]

I am talking about so poor until there is not enough to eat. It's common sense.

So I suppose you'd like it like in China in the communist days? Only those who have approved certificates can have babies at a certain period in time too (expire got to apply again). If out of the certificate validity then have to abort even if at full term as it's not an authorised baby?

China is still in the communist days. Parents are still not allowed to give birth to more than one child. The only exception now is that if both parents are the only child, then they can give birth to 2, but not more than that. The parents simply lose their jobs when they have a second baby.

BTW, rich people in China can still have babies. They just have to pay huge fines to the government when they give birth to more than one children. I met a man who has 3 daughters and one son, he has his own business, and he can afford to pay.

Anyway, I am not saying that Singapore should have this policy. I just wish that people can have more common sense.[/quote]But at least now it's flexible. They can have the option to pay a fine. Last time, when they belonged to units/sections, etc, they had to be issued a certificate to get married (the leaders have to determine if the time/age was appropriate too), and they had to apply and be issued with certificates to have babies - also at a particular period of time.

My son also has a classmate from China that has 6 siblings. Nothing unusual.

[tamarind]

China always have this flexibility ever since they implemented the one child policy. If you can afford to pay the fines, which is a huge amount of money, then you can give birth to as many kids as you want. That man that I wrote above, his 4 kids are all adults now.


I worked in China before, never heard that they need to apply for certificates to have babies. The parents just lose their jobs, and have to pay huge fines, that’s all.