Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[roseyi]

Hi all, amendment.... :oops:

caroline3sg:

But then again, what happens if you are in that person's shoes? You would want to maximise your chances, isn't it?

I think I might do the same thing to maximise my chances.

BUT then again, I'm in Phase 2C, so this is out of the question.

Overall, I have this feeling that the MOE staff who gave the approvals to the Schools might be underequipped with the knowledge in this case.

After you brought up your case with your MP, I think MOE will not allow this to happen ever, ever again...


Heehee..first time posting...got some problem with the \"quote\" feature.. :oops:

[starman]

ChiefKiasu:

jedamum:

...ChiefKiasu...perhaps you wanna separate these discussion into another thread?

With respect to the Ai Tong and Pei Hwa cases, I'm not sure what happened or whether it was a misunderstanding, but the idea of having deadlines on Phases is to prevent exactly things like that from happening. If you \"forgot\" to register in time, then you have passed up your chance to do so, and that should be the end of it. No excuse should be accepted either by the school or the authorities, otherwise, the whole system breaks down.

Chief, \"you hit the nail on the head\", the issue here is that the PV was taken out from Phase 2B from Ai Tong and Pei Hwa AFTER the Phase 2A deadline has passed...which is not suppose to happen and which is unfair to those parents and kids who qualify for Phase 2B ... in Pei Hwa case, in the end 7 kids were deprived of a chance to get in, instead of 5 if the 2 places was not taken out...I can imagine how the parents who missed out feel and most of them have earned it through the parents volunteer scheme....very sad!!

[Red_Rhino]

So, isn't it time to re-look at the phase 2A priority? By enforcing the distance priority rule, the people who uses this \"strategy\" will be reduced. Such that, most students from the school, stay close by, isn't what the MOE wanted to achieve as it keep emphasizing to parents to register in schools close by?


The prices of houses in the vicinity of the schools will be driven up? Hasn't this been happening for years already?

Of course, any changes to phase 2A will not go down well with those people who treat this \"privilege\" as their gifts to their descendants. So maybe, next time, before going into a serious relationship, the question to ask your future partner is, \"which former primary school do you come from\"? :P.

[caroline3sg]

red rhino

MOE has reasons not to impose distance on 2A. One of them I can think of is, ex-students have gone through the same sch and would know the requirements/standards thus could help their children transit smoothly and handle the requirements. How many good pri students go on to good sec sch? A lot isn’t it? MOE’s objective is to churn out scholars to hold political posts. I, for one do not agree to impose distance on 2A.

With regards to the added criteria when selecting a partner, it is indeed a good laugh!

[yippy]

hello


i just went for chong fu 2B balloting for those > 2km but was not selected.

there were 36 applicants for 26 vancanies. i am staying only 2+km away from the school and i realise many parents were from sembawang and woodlands etc. If the current balloting system is based on distance, why cant they have phases like for 2km-3km followed by 3km -4km etc?

[ChiefKiasu]

yippy:

hello


i just went for chong fu 2B balloting for those > 2km but was not selected.

there were 36 applicants for 26 vancanies. i am staying only 2+km away from the school and i realise many parents were from sembawang and woodlands etc. If the current balloting system is based on distance, why cant they have phases like for 2km-3km followed by 3km -4km etc?

Hi yippy, I'm sorry to hear that. It is unfortunate, but it was a worthwhile risk that you have had to take when attempting to go for Chongfu in Phase 2B. The system is not perfect, and will never be, as long as there are enough differences between Primary schools that makes some more desirable than others.

It's time to move on and give Chongfu a miss, since it will be impossible for you to get into Chongfu beyond the hot zone of 1km in Phase 2C. A school is only as good as its students... and we know there are plenty of good students in Singapore given the great parents we find in this community of ours.

What are your backup plans?

[caroline3sg]

I have another piece of news to share. Someone was the only one ballot out at 2B. The principal put him on first waitlist and told him there is high chance of withdrawal from earlier phases. So this withdrawal from earlier phases is widely known by principals?

[Red_Rhino]

caroline3sg:

red rhino

MOE has reasons not to impose distance on 2A. One of them I can think of is, ex-students have gone through the same sch and would know the requirements/standards thus could help their children transit smoothly and handle the requirements.

I don't believe the schools of today is the same as yesteryears. For one, I am very sure, Henry Park Primary School is not the same as it was during my time. Schools relocate, school syllabus has changed, education system has changed, Principals and Teachers have changed. However, one thing for sure, if I'm a former student of a lousy neighbourhood school, I will not bother to mention my primary school.
[quote]How many good pri students go on to good sec sch? A lot isn't it? MOE's objective is to churn out scholars to hold political posts.[/quote]I would assume you refer to schools with good academic results as good schools. Take a look at the list of top schools (in terms of academic results), these are all the schools with gifted programmes. These schools has the top students from all other schools, so, isn't it natural that they should produce the top students? Some so-called good schools will advise those with poorer results to either \"buck up\" or \"ship out\", so as to maintain the high academic results of the school, so, we will have to assume that students of these schools should make the grades and go on to good secondary schools.
[quote]I, for one do not agree to impose distance on 2A.[/quote]I agree with you that most people think of self first.....

[ChiefKiasu]

caroline3sg:

I have another piece of news to share. Someone was the only one ballot out at 2B. The principal put him on first waitlist and told him there is high chance of withdrawal from earlier phases. So this withdrawal from earlier phases is widely known by principals?

Withdrawals from earlier Phases do happen occasionally, but is generally uncommon. Generally, people don't like to play with destiny by withdrawing, since they might end up getting nothing in the end. So far in this year's exercise, the highest number of withdrawals per school per Phase is 2, and withdrawals happened in less than 10 schools.

It is not a major problem.

[caroline3sg]

red rhino


"I would assume you refer to schools with good academic results as good schools. Take a look at the list of top schools (in terms of academic results), these are all the schools with gifted programmes. These schools has the top students from all other schools, so, isn’t it natural that they should produce the top students?"

Students entering pri are not based on merit. GEP classes take up only 2 classes of total 10 - 12 classes. Not 100% of these 2 classes made up of people from other sch, they are some proportion from within (though I don’t have data). But definitely more than these 2 GEP classes move on to good sec sch. Learning Lab is famous for taking in RGS and a lot of them are not from GEP class. Posters pasted on their glass panels show majority of them going to RGSS/RI/Nanyang.

Take a look at Nanyang’s statistics. They do breakdown no. of 1km, 1-2km & outside 2km for each phase from 1 to 2C. One would see not only 2A2 having a lot of applicants outside 2km, but also phase 1 (derived from 2nd child whose mum/dad was under 2A2 when reg for first child). So if having distance imposed on 2A2, shouldn’t it be applied to phase 1? It is interlink. Moreover more than 50% is filled up at phase 1. Absolute no. should be more. Those who feel that distance should be imposed on 2A are the sour grapes crying foul.