Teach Less, Learn More
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Whether to be relaxed about results is dependent on the child and what we, as parents, aspire for our child. Some children need a shock to work hard. Others are devastated and give up totally. Some parents are happy if their child have an ITE cert while others pin their hope on their child winning a scholarship and studying in top universities. Well, different strokes for different folks.
For Chenonceau and other parents, my suggestion is to write to the PM since he was the one who first talked about TLLM. He should hear from the affected parents how their children are coping. It’s going to be more productive and something can be done to help your children before their PSLE. Something is definitely not right if a child results slip from the 90s to a fail. I’ve a nephew in P5 this year. His grades for Maths had also dropped from the 90s. But he is scoring in the 80s. The difference, however, is that this time, there are questions he didn’t know how to do, not like previously where marks lost was due to carelessness. There is definitely a gap between what is taught and what is tested. He had no time to go for tuition because school activities last till the late afternoons on most days and has lots of homework to be done after he gets home.
Having said that, I’m not sure if this is something new. This had happened during my daughter’s time (which is around the time of insider’s children and Chenonceau’s daughter). Textbooks weren’t exactly useful at that time too. Even before TLLM, 1 of my friends was telling me how her daughter’s kindergarten teacher told them off for not teaching their girl how to read. And they thought they sent her to school to learn that.
There’s definitely a point to be made for children whose parents are unable to help and cannot afford to pay for tuition. Even for those who can, the amount of activities after school is making it impossible to schedule any. Even with TLLM at its best, the children just don’t have the time and space to explore what is taught in order to learn more on their own. -
insider:
Sigh! You really dun seem very hahaha to me despite your saying that about your life philosophy. Alright then... the \"again\" is deleted. The IEP (whatever that is) is a silly idea.
You have switched focus again? Were you not talking about demanding A and A* from our kids - and therein lies our difference? Now, you are talking about our demands of teachers?
It is not the same thing, you know.
I don't mind ceding these points at all. Is that alright for you? -
insider:
MummythreeStreams appear to me as a relatively new comer in this forum. She seems to be quite a 'relaxing' person seeking response from this thread 'innocently'.
This was your reply to her. You may mean well but may also unnecessary anxiety / fear into parents like her; something which I am thinking of 'moderating':Chenonceau:
Oh sigh! If you really want, I can apologise to MummyThreeStreams. And I also apologise for causing fear to other clueless parents. It was not my intention.If your kid can master P1, dun hesitate to push ahead. I learnt my hard lesson this year. Pre-teaching is necessary if you dun want a demoralized little boy who cries into his pillow.
We were just a bunch of stressed out people venting and hoping that others dun have to go through our stress. -
Shall we get back to the discussion?
I was looking forward to return to this thread after being so bz the whole day! :celebrate:
Some thoughts that r swimming in my head (oh, how stimulating 4 me! :love:
Using a framework, I'm looking at this issue from 3 broad levels & would like to throw these up for discussions:
1) Macro Policy:
a) Why TLLM in the 1st place? What is it trying to address?
b) Anything really went \"wrong\" w TLLM? Have we given it enough time to take effect? Is there any execution error?
c) How can the policy b refined?
d) Should we bother to refine it in the 1st place?
2) Socio-psychology impact on society:
a) Reactions of various stakeholders (schools, teachers, students, parents, external educators etc).
3) Possible stratagies & approaches to address gaps of TMLL (how to cope, not mutually exclusive - pick & match 2 suit kids & parents):
These r some preliminaries, off my head. Feel free to add/subtract & discuss!
Now, let me rest & gather my exhausted thoughts 1st....
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Chenonceau:
Oh sigh! If you really want, I can apologise to MummyThreeStreams. And I also apologise for causing fear to other clueless parents. It was not my intention.
MummythreeStreams appear to me as a relatively new comer in this forum. She seems to be quite a 'relaxing' person seeking response from this thread 'innocently'.insider:
[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
I don't need to know each parent's situation to share that I intend to pre-teach. Parents can choose, no? See below, what I actually wrote.
This was your reply to her. You may mean well but may also unnecessary anxiety / fear into parents like her; something which I am thinking of 'moderating':Chenonceau:
If your kid can master P1, dun hesitate to push ahead. I learnt my hard lesson this year. Pre-teaching is necessary if you dun want a demoralized little boy who cries into his pillow.
We were just a bunch of stressed out people venting and hoping that others dun have to go through our stress.[/quote]oh, come now. There is really no need to apologise for airing your views. This forum exists purely for parents to share their personal views. Your views could be a shared sentiment of the majority of the parents here or it could be a minority view. It doesn't matter.
The point is to share it and if it resonates with another parent, and if that parent decides to try out your suggestions, well and good, but that parent is fully responsible for acting on your views.
People are mature enough to filter through the information and evaluate for themselves if it is appropriate for them, given their unique environment and personal beliefs.
For what's it's worth, I do resonate with your views. I pre teach my child as well. I do it during the holidays as during term time, there is just not enough time to focus on his weak areas. What with homework, CCA activities, reading, play, etc.. there is insufficient time to give due diligence to the child's weaker areas. Pre teaching gives the child a longer time to assimilate a difficult topic, and thus gives the brain a better chance to get the concepts into the long term memory.
Do continue to give your views and express them freely. If one were to consider the myraid implications of one's views before writing a post, this forum would not be as rich and lively as it is today. -
Vevey:
Whoa! Your brain has been working eh? These are great leads!! :love:Shall we get back to the discussion?
I was looking forward to return to this thread after being so bz the whole day! :celebrate:
Some thoughts that r swimming in my head (oh, how stimulating 4 me! :love:
Using a framework, I'm looking at this issue from 3 broad levels & would like to throw these up for discussions:
1) Macro Policy:
a) Why TLLM in the 1st place? What is it trying to address?
b) Anything really went \"wrong\" w TLLM? Have we given it enough time to take effect? Is there any execution error?
c) How can the policy b refined?
d) Should we bother to refine it in the 1st place?
2) Socio-psychology impact on society:
a) Reactions of various stakeholders (schools, teachers, students, parents, external educators etc).
3) Possible stratagies & approaches to address gaps of TMLL (how to cope, not mutually exclusive - pick & match 2 suit kids & parents):
These r some preliminaries, off my head. Feel free to add/subtract & discuss!
Now, let me rest & gather my exhausted thoughts 1st.... -
cimman:
oh, come now. There is really no need to apologise for airing your views. This forum exists purely for parents to share their personal views. Your views could be a shared sentiment of the majority of the parents here or it could be a minority view. It doesn't matter.
Oh sigh! If you really want, I can apologise to MummyThreeStreams. And I also apologise for causing fear to other clueless parents. It was not my intention.Chenonceau:
[quote=\"insider\"]
MummythreeStreams appear to me as a relatively new comer in this forum. She seems to be quite a 'relaxing' person seeking response from this thread 'innocently'.
This was your reply to her. You may mean well but may also unnecessary anxiety / fear into parents like her; something which I am thinking of 'moderating':
We were just a bunch of stressed out people venting and hoping that others dun have to go through our stress.
The point is to share it and if it resonates with another parent, and if that parent decides to try out your suggestions, well and good, but that parent is fully responsible for acting on your views.
People are mature enough to filter through the information and evaluate for themselves if it is appropriate for them, given their unique environment and personal beliefs.
For what's it's worth, I do resonate with your views. I pre teach my child as well. I do it during the holidays as during term time, there is just not enough time to focus on his weak areas. What with homework, CCA activities, reading, play, etc.. there is insufficient time to give due diligence to the child's weaker areas. Pre teaching gives the child a longer time to assimilate a difficult topic, and thus gives the brain a better chance to get the concepts into the long term memory.
Do continue to give your views and express them freely. If one were to consider the myraid implications of one's views before writing a post, this forum would not be as rich and lively as it is today.[/quote]
No worries lah... I will continue to share. A gentle word turns away wrath. A little apology now and then means little... especially when well... people may really have been terrified by what I wrote. So...
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Chenonceau:
See what stimulation did to me? :lol:
Whoa! Your brain has been working eh? These are great leads!! :love: -
Vevey:
Ummm... stimulation? I have notti thots. :oops:
See what stimulation did to me? :lol:Chenonceau:
Whoa! Your brain has been working eh? These are great leads!! :love: -
Chenonceau:
Ummm... stimulation? I have notti thots. :oops:[/quote] :laugh:
See what stimulation did to me? :lol:Vevey:
[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
Whoa! Your brain has been working eh? These are great leads!! :love:
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