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    Teach Less, Learn More

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      Chenonceau
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      smurf:
      Hee...you know sometimes I wonder if u r the kind who are very stern with your psychiatrist status (those with messy hair, in the lab doing some kind of experiment inventing dunno what) but from your above post, doesn't seem so leh... πŸ˜‰

      Messy hair? Got. Whatever is left of it is messy alright.

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        smurf
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        :lol:

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          Vevey
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          Chenonceau:
          Vevey:

          [quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

          Whoa! Your brain has been working eh? These are great leads!! :love:

          See what stimulation did to me? :lol:

          Ummm... stimulation? I have notti thots. :oops:[/quote] :dowan:
          :spank: :cheeky:

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            metz
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            MummyThreeStreams:
            Wah, I must get some tips from you! Where are you now and how many kids are you homeschooling? How on earth do you manage?!


            Hi MummyThreeStreams,

            My kids are turning 6 and 8 years old this year. Homeschooling, umm, is still pretty chaotic. Too much freedom and lack of discipline. Though we have been here for almost year, most of the assessment books (except Maths) we brought here are untouched, . (My hubby has been nagging at me over them πŸ˜› ) 1.5 more years to go but at the rate we are going, I'll probably have to lug them home untouched. So, moral of the story - don't buy too many books! :oops:

            Since you will be away for only a year, your child won't miss too much. P2 syllabus should be manageable if your child have a strong preschool foundation. For P3 syllabus, you might have to put in more effort to help facilitate a smoother transition back into the school system upon return. Don't forget that P3 students are expected to work on English and Chinese compositions. It also pays to check out the Science threads in this forum on the kind of 'answers' expected by schools.

            One thing about homeschooling is that some kids might progress at a faster pace (one-on-one attention mah). So, you might want to get beyond level material just to keep the brain working, should you finish the P3 syllabus before the year is up. πŸ™‚ Good luck!

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              Vevey
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              sunflower:
              Pai seh... when I first saw the thread title, I thought this old thread has been revived!

              http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10456&highlight=

              Then I went to the first page and realised that it's a new thread recently created! Interesting how this Teach Less Learn More thingy is still bugging us after 1 year! ... and not much has changed in the education system. :roll:
              Oh ya, shld merge the threads. Think I'd missed THAT \"stimulation\". πŸ˜‰

              System takes time to change (if any; & for better or for worse, who knows?) & things could go wrong during execution BUT 1 thing that we can control is HOW we go abt beating the system for the sake of our children.

              Is our objective to ace/do well/pass the exams? & at what expense?

              My guess would b most of us r looking at the do well-balanced lifestyle route, so let's strive for it.

              However, I know of a friend who 1 2 engage a pte, 1-1 tutor to improve her P1 kid's Maths from 93/100 to ??? & another parent who send his kid to 3 prestigious tuition centres for the SAME subjects. (No joke! I also tot I heard wrongly the 1st time, when my friend who is 1 of his tutors, told us. :lol: )

              Sch principal called him up to ask why the kid is sleeping in the class & advised him to select only 1 tuition centre. The parent was in a delimma & called the tutors for \"advice\". My friend was shocked that she wasn't the only tutor, & told him to follow principal's suggestion & decide on 1 centre.

              On the other spectrum, my neighbour is relying on subsidised/free (i'm not sure which) tuition from CDAC for her PSLE & P2 kids, as she was chinese educated in M'sia & her hubby did not complete sec sch here.

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                metz
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                Chenonceau:
                smurf:

                Then post more!!! πŸ˜‰


                Very soon, you will be Grandmaster... πŸ˜‰

                Yeah lor... Smurfy, I very envy your Grandmaster status and I look at my post count every day... and I am soooooooooo SLOW. I considered posting one sentence each post. A few posts equal one para, but I think Maid or Chief will come and humtum me.


                I'm trying very hard to keep my post counts down so that I won't hit the GM status. Maid or Chief, can transfer my post counts to Chenonceau? Please? πŸ™

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                  QuiteKSMum
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                  Chenonceau wrote : [quote]It wasn't at all educational or helpful to anyone... and I made an undignified spectacle of myself right through. The only thing I am proud of was the apology and that was at the end. I should actually have apologized earlier.

                  [/quote]Hey Chenonceau,

                  I don't see any un-dignified words/actions by you! You were putting your views across wh. generally represent some of our views - at least I tend to agree with most of yours... except the part on pre-teaching... But we parents are able to evaluate ourselves our own needs & circumstances, no need to feel apologetic that you were \"leading\" us on the wrong path...

                  Son did his PSLE last yr and don't think we really pre-teach him before (except maybe a little for Maths - wh. was his fav...he himself were interested to learn & went ahead to read up on his own...so pre-teach but by himself...). But we were lucky in the sense DS's pri sch did not really set papers wh. were so much off (ahead) of what's being taught in class that we needed to pre-teach. Of course, there were a couple of \"stretched\" qns for every subj but we understand that those were mainly to separate the really top students fm the avg mass. I still don't know what's Unitary/Units Transfer method (DH guided him - I'm clueless abt Maths) thou I already knew of its existence last yr thru print advertisements. Checked with DH whether we needed to get that (kiasu ma, no harm getting another \"resource\") but was told not necc... Until these recent posts & I asked him whether we knew (& used) the UTM method, his reply was no.

                  Even without using UTM (of course DS sch, wh is a neighbour sch, did not teach this mtd), son managed to get an A* last yr. BUT I knew he put in many hrs practising the sums (with no complaints as that's his fav subj) & DH is around to guide him thru those challenging qns.

                  Just to share abt the sudden increase in std from P4 to P5...Digging back his results, I can see that yes, at P5 CA1, his overall % dropped to 77%. SA1 dropped by a further 1%. But then I see the drop is only abt 2 - 3% from his P4 SA2 results. Analysing his results now, could see that for our case, the highest drop was from P3 to P4 - a drop of more than 8%! I roughly knew why this big drop in P4 - I had returned to work after spending more than 6 yrs at home with him - the long hrs at work & too tired to coach played a major part... Hence at P5, when the opportunity presented itself, I did not hesistate to quit again as I knew he needed much closer supervsion at home by me. IMHO, PSLE preparation definitely starts from P5, to leave till P6 is v.risky....

                  By end P5, with closer guidance fm me, he managed to up his % by 4% and thereafter maintained it till end P6. Those who are gd in calculations can prob get his end sch results - abt 80%. To DH & I, this is a pretty gd score...thou we're not truly confident that he'll be able to get into his/our dream Sec sch. PSLE he did much better than we expected and scored amongst the top 10% of his cohort ...we were totally over the moon on results day .... :love: . We could see that DS was v.proud of himself as the last 2 yrs of his efforts had finally paid off.


                  Generally, DS's sch Ts comments over the yrs had always been in the line that he's inquisitive & eager to learn new things. From P5 onwards, comments were like \"determined to succeed & works towards fulfilling his personal goals\". Hence, IMHO again, other than academic, parents must somehow motivate the child towards self-motivation...then everything would be easier to fall in place...

                  Just by 2 cts... hope it's not :offtopic:.

                  :celebrate: :celebrate:

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                    QuiteKSMum
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                    Hi All,


                    A sudden idea occurred to me - those who are afftected by schs' \"policy\" of setting tests/papers on as yet \"unlearned\" topics - instead of feedback to MOE ( still can do concurrently thou), why not give feedback to the school advisory board first...much closer to home ground...

                    Just my 2 cts again...

                    :celebrate:

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                      Funx3
                      last edited by

                      Chenonceau:

                      Now, can we go back to goofing around? I need to goof around with someone 'cos I am still stressed by SA1. 😒 😒 😒

                      The brighter side of things though... is that I have made it to Brown Belt. That's a little closer to Grandmaster :lol: .
                      Ha Ha ....
                      It's Good To See U Back to Good Spirit Again!
                      Congrats to Reaching Brown Belt ....
                      Am Sure in a Short While U'll Be knocking on the Door, to be Welcomed with :grphug: into the GrandMaster Club!
                      Cheers!
                      :lol: :lol:

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        QuiteKSMum:
                        Chenonceau wrote : [quote]It wasn't at all educational or helpful to anyone... and I made an undignified spectacle of myself right through. The only thing I am proud of was the apology and that was at the end. I should actually have apologized earlier.

                        Hey Chenonceau,

                        I don't see any un-dignified words/actions by you! You were putting your views across wh. generally represent some of our views - at least I tend to agree with most of yours... except the part on pre-teaching... But we parents are able to evaluate ourselves our own needs & circumstances, no need to feel apologetic that you were \"leading\" us on the wrong path...

                        Son did his PSLE last yr and don't think we really pre-teach him before (except maybe a little for Maths - wh. was his fav...he himself were interested to learn & went ahead to read up on his own...so pre-teach but by himself...). But we were lucky in the sense DS's pri sch did not really set papers wh. were so much off (ahead) of what's being taught in class that we needed to pre-teach. Of course, there were a couple of \"stretched\" qns for every subj but we understand that those were mainly to separate the really top students fm the avg mass. I still don't know what's Unitary/Units Transfer method (DH guided him - I'm clueless abt Maths) thou I already knew of its existence last yr thru print advertisements. Checked with DH whether we needed to get that (kiasu ma, no harm getting another \"resource\") but was told not necc... Until these recent posts & I asked him whether we knew (& used) the UTM method, his reply was no.

                        Even without using UTM (of course DS sch, wh is a neighbour sch, did not teach this mtd), son managed to get an A* last yr. BUT I knew he put in many hrs practising the sums (with no complaints as that's his fav subj) & DH is around to guide him thru those challenging qns.

                        Just to share abt the sudden increase in std from P4 to P5...Digging back his results, I can see that yes, at P5 CA1, his overall % dropped to 77%. SA1 dropped by a further 1%. But then I see the drop is only abt 2 - 3% from his P4 SA2 results. Analysing his results now, could see that for our case, the highest drop was from P3 to P4 - a drop of more than 8%! I roughly knew why this big drop in P4 - I had returned to work after spending more than 6 yrs at home with him - the long hrs at work & too tired to coach played a major part... Hence at P5, when the opportunity presented itself, I did not hesistate to quit again as I knew he needed much closer supervsion at home by me. IMHO, PSLE preparation definitely starts from P5, to leave till P6 is v.risky....

                        By end P5, with closer guidance fm me, he managed to up his % by 4% and thereafter maintained it till end P6. Those who are gd in calculations can prob get his end sch results - abt 80%. To DH & I, this is a pretty gd score...thou we're not truly confident that he'll be able to get into his/our dream Sec sch. PSLE he did much better than we expected and scored amongst the top 10% of his cohort ...we were totally over the moon on results day .... :love: . We could see that DS was v.proud of himself as the last 2 yrs of his efforts had finally paid off.


                        Generally, DS's sch Ts comments over the yrs had always been in the line that he's inquisitive & eager to learn new things. From P5 onwards, comments were like \"determined to succeed & works towards fulfilling his personal goals\". Hence, IMHO again, other than academic, parents must somehow motivate the child towards self-motivation...then everything would be easier to fall in place...

                        Just by 2 cts... hope it's not :offtopic:.

                        :celebrate: :celebrate:[/quote]Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I can't tell you how comforting your words are. I guess we will just have to encourage him and motivate him and love him a lot from now till PSLE... and work with him closely. He is a very serious and conscientious boy and is used to scoring in the 90s. He is not used to 70-ish kind of marks... and so he cried after he marked his practice exam. That upset me... It's good to look ahead with you through the words that you wrote.

                        Comforting. Thank you.

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