Studying Parent?
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everyone study simi ar?
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Define "part-time"?
I have been studying Japanese for the last 3 years, 2 hrs per week; before JLPT exam, 4 hours a week. -
Taking CPIM. 4 modules & each module will need to sit for examination. Self study through online, books and questionaires.
8 colleagues taking the same course. 4 married with children, 4 singles or married with no children. Exam results? Only 1 married with children (me) and the singles that pass the exam.
So…bottom line it is tough. But as always miracle happen and I started mugging two days before exam. Took two half day leaves to study and ignore house work, children, husband, office work just to slog. After exam, faces with lots and lots of work and housework backlogs.
The very reason I sing "yippe ya ya yippee yippee yaa" when I learnt that I pass. -
learning Japanese ar…
can never get myself to formally learn this language though I been to Japan countless time & stayed for for various extented duration. -
EN:
tats the thingy abt online & self discipline studies.... ever hard to get motivated & there are no peers to gauge progress.Taking CPIM. 4 modules & each module will need to sit for examination. Self study through online, books and questionaires.
8 colleagues taking the same course. 4 married with children, 4 singles or married with no children. Exam results? Only 1 married with children (me) and the singles that pass the exam.
So....bottom line it is tough. But as always miracle happen and I started mugging two days before exam. Took two half day leaves to study and ignore house work, children, husband, office work just to slog. After exam, faces with lots and lots of work and housework backlogs.
The very reason I sing \"yippe ya ya yippee yippee yaa\" when I learnt that I pass. -
[quote]tats the thingy abt online & self discipline studies.... ever hard to get motivated & there are no peers to gauge progress.[/quote]
I was tempted to procastinate to have the exam taken in December instead of June. My senior talk me out of it saying, that I will have better support if everyone take it together.
There's 8 of us sitting for the exam. There's two that help to compile notes and print out past years paper (there's about 800 questions that we need to go through), one that help to burn CD for another set of notes and questionaires. We took turn to take leaves. We update each other where we are at and will assist if there's questions that we are not able to answer.
So for self study, there is a need to find a group to help motivate each other.
Years ago, before I start a family, I took up another post graduate course, going to campus 3 times a week and that is excluding project meet up. It's extremely tiring to attend lectures after school and juggling work stress. I fell asleep in lectures often but yes did make it through.
I don't think I am up to another round of part time study, going to campus after office hours, juggling work, kids, husband and parents.
The online at the moment is the most flexible of all. I usually hit the book at 5 - 6am. -
EN:
[quote]tats the thingy abt online & self discipline studies.... ever hard to get motivated & there are no peers to gauge progress.
I was tempted to procastinate to have the exam taken in December instead of June. My senior talk me out of it saying, that I will have better support if everyone take it together.
There's 8 of us sitting for the exam. There's two that help to compile notes and print out past years paper (there's about 800 questions that we need to go through), one that help to burn CD for another set of notes and questionaires. We took turn to take leaves. We update each other where we are at and will assist if there's questions that we are not able to answer.
So for self study, there is a need to find a group to help motivate each other.
Years ago, before I start a family, I took up another post graduate course, going to campus 3 times a week and that is excluding project meet up. It's extremely tiring to attend lectures after school and juggling work stress. I fell asleep in lectures often but yes did make it through.
I don't think I am up to another round of part time study, going to campus after office hours, juggling work, kids, husband and parents.
The online at the moment is the most flexible of all. I usually hit the book at 5 - 6am.[/quote]kudos to you
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insider:
Oh I'm only at JLPT4sashimi,
which level of JLPT are you at now? My daughter is planning to take Level 2 two years later (self study with notes from JC students taking Japanese as a 3rd language).
Level 1 seems to be very hard. I have two friends who have taken about 5 times and still can't pass the paper and they are now still doing self study to try and try again... (sometimes they may have private tuition at about $80/hr by a Japanese lecturer but they don't go for classes anymore).
Taking JLPT3 this year.
JLPT1 is not very hard - it is apparently insanely hard. I hear even the Japanese are scared of it. schellen can tell you more - she nearly passed it last year, alas but for a handful of marks.
btw you should inform your daughter that starting 2010, the system is changing from the 4 levels (JLPT4-1) to a new 5-level system, N5 to N1. N2 will be the equivalent of JLPT2, but there'll be a new level between JLPT2 and JLPT3 called N3. I'm aiming for that qualification in 2010. N1 is apparently going to be even harder than JLPT1. -
sashimi:
Yes, it is a scary paper, even my teachers said that, and they are native Japanese. This is because the paper also tests you on stuff that are not in daily usage, conversation or otherwise. You will face kanji that are beyond the commonly used 1,500. My teachers say that if you read Japanese newspapers and novels/literature often, you should not have much of a problem. Watch out too for onomatopeia, proverbs and reading comprehension articles that deal with surveys or reports from various fields.JLPT1 is not very hard - it is apparently insanely hard. I hear even the Japanese are scared of it. schellen can tell you more - she nearly passed it last year, alas but for a handful of marks.
btw you should inform your daughter that starting 2010, the system is changing from the 4 levels (JLPT4-1) to a new 5-level system, N5 to N1. N2 will be the equivalent of JLPT2, but there'll be a new level between JLPT2 and JLPT3 called N3. I'm aiming for that qualification in 2010. N1 is apparently going to be even harder than JLPT1.
The school that sashimi and I attend is very small but fees are very affordable and teachers very dedicated (they helped me pass JLPT2!) so I will only attend JLPT1 prep course at this school. Unfortunately, JLPT1 is not something people will usually want to undertake so they don't have a prep course for JLPT1....unless I can find at least 4 other people to start a class with me, and these 4 should not drop out halfway.
I refuse to attend other schs' prep course due to the following:
1. higher fees
2. further distance from my workplace (the sch I want to attend is within walking distance from my workplace)
3. no guarantee that I will get a good, dedicated teacher who is a native speaker
4. bad feedback from a friend who attended a reputable sch before attending this sch (and passed!)
5. last but not least, I dislike how sometimes profit-driven schs will \"pressurise\" you into signing up for JLPT when you are taking their normal course, just so that if you pass, you enable their sch to become even more reputable (e.g., \"Join us! XX% of our students attained JLPT1/2/3/4!\")
So , in the end, I bought revision books and guides from Kinokuniya and studied on my own. I should've started revision earlier and pushed myself harder. Really regret it. I didn't expect to pass; in fact, I expected to fail very badly. However, when I got my result slip, I was shocked to discover that I had only failed by 27 marks! (This is not a lot considering how they allocate a lot of marks per question.)
I may try again next year for N1, if I really feel up to it. Sigh...
I think the other thing to note is that besides mugging hard for JLPT, the other thing that really helped me was the opportunity to constantly use the language. I have to use Jap daily in my work and occasionally, I translate English documents into Jap.
Do note that not only will there be changes to the structure of the tests, the fees for registration have also increased since last year. If you pass JLPT 1, you are eligible for entry into Jap universities (provided you fulfill their other requirements, of course) and you can teach Jap. -
ChiefKiasu:
Just received my module 1 results in the mail today... kekeke managed to scrape a pass... 4 marks away from fail grade actually ... DW will always :rant: when I cant finish studying before the exam ... but knowing that a pass for me is quite a miracle in itself... will still :hugs: when I clear my paper.
Quite a few... the two that come to mind are:FMz:
KS parent here who is presently studying part time.
Raise hand please
ZacK
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ChiefKiasu's DW (Does she count?)
I am the type of students that teachers and parents hate to have cos I'm super lazy and will only study to pass
... Dun expect me to prepare in advance for classes or do assignments... Took 2 days of leave to study and on the 3rd day go for exam :!: ... And I wonder why my blood pressure is always HIGH perhaps always living close to the edge 
Wonder if I am setting a bad example for DSes or perhaps I'm helping them to mentally prepare DW's expectation on them when they take their exams in future
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