Club Breadmakers

[dolphinmummy]

Haha I followed the Z recipe book.I mashed it. But I nv c any lumpy banana too as it is not totally mashed up too.I just pressed a bit with spoon.I used oNe third cup and slightly more

[dolphinmummy]

LKVM:

dolphinmummy:

Haha I followed the Z recipe book.I mashed it. But I nv c any lumpy banana too as it is not totally mashed up too.I just pressed a bit with spoon.I used oNe third cup and slightly more

For me I would generally add more of the extra topping thats given in the recipe... So like for example I add almost 1 cup full of raisins for my bread and same goes for banana.. i also do is add half cup of mashed ones and half cup of sliced ones.. maybe u can try that?

Ok will try to make another one. Thanks for your advice..:)

[allseasons]

Hi all,

I tried to bake loaf bread using the Z machine. But the loaf never came out as soft as the one from bakery. anyone knows why? Is it because i didn’t use bread improver? What is bread improver? I couldn’t find it in supermarket… Is it the same with baking soda or bicarbonate soda? Another problem is the crust of the loaf baked in the machine seems very hard, eventhough I chose the ‘soft’ mode. How to soften it? Thanks a lot!

[Happy Mama]

allseasons:

Hi all,

I tried to bake loaf bread using the Z machine. But the loaf never came out as soft as the one from bakery. anyone knows why? Is it because i didn't use bread improver? What is bread improver? I couldn't find it in supermarket.. Is it the same with baking soda or bicarbonate soda? Another problem is the crust of the loaf baked in the machine seems very hard, eventhough I chose the 'soft' mode. How to soften it? Thanks a lot!

Hi, I never used bread improver for my loaves. I used the normal mode and followed the ingredients accordingly as per the booklet and in the right sequence. Bread turned out soft and fluffy.

Did you use old or expired yeast? I had the same experience when I baked my first loaf as I used a 1-yr old yeast (even though not expired) and bread turned out as hard as rock. :razz:

[allseasons]

I don’t think the yeast is expired, just got it from the supermaket shelf. the bread turned out nice when freshly out from the machine (except the crust is not as soft as the bakery one)… but if kept until tomorrow morning, it became dry and a bit hard. I kept it in a dry container…

[Funz]

Ah, this is the same complain that I have. I guess it boils down to expectations. I tried experimenting with water roux recipe and it yielded a softer loaf that remained relatively soft the next day but still nowhere compared to those from store or bakery. The Z machine’s recipe, the loaf comes out soft and fluffy when piping hot but by next morning, it kinda become dense and chewy and if you keep another day, will have to toast it before eating or the texture is really too dry.


I also found that keeping the bread in a sealed box also keep it fresh longer as compared to putting them in plastic or ziplock bags.

I read somewhere that vitamin Cs actually act like bread improvers by building gluten strands or something to that effect resulting in softer fluffier breads.

No time to experiment further to get better results so far. Actually having half a mind to sell my Z oredi.

[allseasons]

@Funz & WCW: Oh, its like that… No wonder my boys kept telling me, why my bread is not yummy… eventhough i measure all the ingredients correctly… Normally they would gobbled up bread from bakery very fast, but the one I made they would take longer time to finish…


Thinking of adding bread improver. But don’t like the idea, since it is another kind of additive… Anyone tried baking with mixture of all purpose flour and bread flour? Will it make softer bread?

[L-earner]

Funz:

Ah, this is the same complain that I have. I guess it boils down to expectations. I tried experimenting with water roux recipe and it yielded a softer loaf that remained relatively soft the next day but still nowhere compared to those from store or bakery. The Z machine's recipe, the loaf comes out soft and fluffy when piping hot but by next morning, it kinda become dense and chewy and if you keep another day, will have to toast it before eating or the texture is really too dry.


I also found that keeping the bread in a sealed box also keep it fresh longer as compared to putting them in plastic or ziplock bags.

I read somewhere that vitamin Cs actually act like bread improvers by building gluten strands or something to that effect resulting in softer fluffier breads.

No time to experiment further to get better results so far. Actually having half a mind to sell my Z oredi.

Heng arh I was about to bite the bullet n get the z machine this wkend... Looks like need to reconsider le ... :scratchhead: Any other unpleasant experiences? Pls enlighten. Tks!

[Happy Mama]

LKVM:

Funz:

Ah, this is the same complain that I have. I guess it boils down to expectations. I tried experimenting with water roux recipe and it yielded a softer loaf that remained relatively soft the next day but still nowhere compared to those from store or bakery. The Z machine's recipe, the loaf comes out soft and fluffy when piping hot but by next morning, it kinda become dense and chewy and if you keep another day, will have to toast it before eating or the texture is really too dry.

I also found that keeping the bread in a sealed box also keep it fresh longer as compared to putting them in plastic or ziplock bags.
I read somewhere that vitamin Cs actually act like bread improvers by building gluten strands or something to that effect resulting in softer fluffier breads. No time to experiment further to get better results so far. Actually having half a mind to sell my Z oredi.

my loaf is not bad leh.. 98% of the store bought bread except for the crust maybe

Ya mine is delicious too! Everyone who tried my fruit loaf said it's yummy... Everyone meaning at least 30-40 pax have sampled my loaves.

[Funz]

Like I said, expectations loh. After reading all the raves about the machine, I thought really can get truly bakery quality bread but for me, nope. The loaves are still yummy especially when eaten fresh, just not to that standard and they cannot keep.


In any case to be fair, may not be the problem of the machine but more to do with the recipe.

1/2 thinking of selling the machine is cos it is time consuming to make breads though convenient with the machine it still takes a total of at least 3hrs to get 1 loaf of bread. And I don’t have the time to experiment further so the machine is under utilise.