PM Lee says S'pore must study nuclear option

[Pen88n]

WeiHan:

markfch:

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The closing down of nuclear plants in Germany is purely political due to Green party. USA, China, Russia have gave green light to go ahead with nuclear because it is the ONLY way to go. Germany will suffer from this decision.

Actually, Fuku disaster is nothing to worry, surely not as bad as the media has played it up. One fact which they missed reporting was that this Fuku nuclear plant that ran into problem was so old, nearly 40 years, and the design was so out of date that it was a wrong decision on their part to continue extrending its service. Modern nuclear plants are safe in that they are built to resist major shock from earthquake and they designed with many safe-control that will guarantee auto shut down in case of emergency. Is the fuku power plant of this design. Surely, it is not.

You know what caused the Three Mile nuclear meltdown and Chernobyl disaster? It is not due to the lack of safety measures, of which there are plenty. It's due mainly to human errors. Mind you, not big ones but rather a series of small little mistakes which resulted in the final catastrophe.

What about the risk of terrorist attack or even conventional war?

Give me lesser economic growth anytime. But I don't want a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in my own backyard.

The Chernobyl nuclear plant was of a totally different design that they can't even shut the nuclear plant even when they want to.

I am not sure you have a choice. What if Malaysia want to built a few? Don't dream of running away. Even Taiwan concur that there will be nowhere to escape if something happen to one of their 3 nuclear plants. Even countries of the size of Taiwan have nowhere big enough to escape. I am not sure, is it just lower growth that we have to face or survival?[/quote]If Taiwan has nowhere to escape, Singapore will be a worst position when it comes to radiation leak. We cannot stop our neighbours from building nuclear plant if they want to, but why should we ourselves build a bomb in our very own backyard? Anyway, our neighbours have not started yet, and we are talking about taking the initiatives now.

Survival in the form of life or survival in the form of economic growth for a country? Look at Japan, at what expense did they pay for the radiation leak in terms of effect to her people and economic growth? How long are they going to suffer for that mess? Isn't it about time to educate our people and businesses about energy saving, using of greener form of energy like solar power, etc.

Of course we have a choice! Everyone can choose to move somewhere where they do not have a bomb in their backyard, or maybe further from the bomb! In fact, for the case of Singapore having a nuclear plant, I do not think this is a bomb ticking away in my backyard, it is more like a bomb waiting to explode in my face anytime!

[WeiHan]

Pen88n:

Survival in the form of life or survival in the form of economic growth for a country? Look at Japan, at what expense did they pay for the radiation leak in terms of effect to her people and economic growth? How long are they going to suffer for that mess? Isn't it about time to educate our people and businesses about energy saving, using of greener form of energy like solar power, etc.

Of course we have a choice! Everyone can choose to move somewhere where they do not have a bomb in their backyard, or maybe further from the bomb! In fact, for the case of Singapore having a nuclear plant, I do not think this is a bomb ticking away in my backyard, it is more like a bomb waiting to explode in my face anytime!

If there is no sufficient energy, maybe 70% of the people will be jobless. Kids with no food and big belly running on the street. Is that survival of life or economic growth? The loss of Japan are largely due to the earthquake and tsunami. As I have said, the nuclear crisis itself cost less than 10 lives, much less than the victims in road accidents in Singapore yearly. Also, as I have said, they used an unsafe, out-moded nuclear plant. Solar energy cannot provide sufficient energy. The panel they produced presently is still not efficient in converting solar energy to electrical. Conserving energy is good but the amount we can save is only a small percentage, it too can't solve the problem. Who is willing to switch off the air-con in their office?

Not everybody have the ability to migrate. Even if some people migrated, the remaining people still have to use electricity. Nuclear energy is the trend, probably every city in the world will be near some nuclear power stations. Unless you are telling me that you are going to forsake the luxyru of staying in a city. 70% of France is on nuclear energy.

[wapobs]

grumble… grumble… scared of nuclear this and nuclear that.

but using more and more electricity, then how?

[Oppsgal]

WeiHan:

Pen88n:

Survival in the form of life or survival in the form of economic growth for a country? Look at Japan, at what expense did they pay for the radiation leak in terms of effect to her people and economic growth? How long are they going to suffer for that mess? Isn't it about time to educate our people and businesses about energy saving, using of greener form of energy like solar power, etc.

Of course we have a choice! Everyone can choose to move somewhere where they do not have a bomb in their backyard, or maybe further from the bomb! In fact, for the case of Singapore having a nuclear plant, I do not think this is a bomb ticking away in my backyard, it is more like a bomb waiting to explode in my face anytime!

If there is no sufficient energy, maybe 70% of the people will be jobless. Kids with no food and big belly running on the street. Is that survival of life or economic growth? The loss of Japan are largely due to the earthquake and tsunami. As I have said, the nuclear crisis itself cost less than 10 lives, much less than the victims in road accidents in Singapore yearly. Also, as I have said, they used an unsafe, out-moded nuclear plant. Solar energy cannot provide sufficient energy. The panel they produced presently is still not efficient in converting solar energy to electrical. Conserving energy is good but the amount we can save is only a small percentage, it too can't solve the problem. Who is willing to switch off the air-con in their office?

Not everybody have the ability to migrate. Even if some people migrated, the remaining people still have to use electricity. Nuclear energy is the trend, probably every city in the world will be near some nuclear power stations. Unless you are telling me that you are going to forsake the luxyru of staying in a city. 70% of France is on nuclear energy.

Now no sufficient energy without nuclear in singapore?

so far, I heard no news that there are not enough, just that the energy resource is expensive.

[Oppsgal]

poppy15:

can someone get PM Lee to read our concerns...

you write in his facebook and invite to read?

[wapobs]

Oppsgal:

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Now no sufficient energy without nuclear in singapore?

so far, I heard no news that there are not enough, just that the energy resource is expensive.

must also weigh effects of burning fossil fuels vs nuclear risk, tio bo?

there is no more cheap energy liao, in any form.
until mankind learn to harness sufficient renewable energy from nature.

[WeiHan]

Oppsgal:

Now no sufficient energy without nuclear in singapore?


so far, I heard no news that there are not enough, just that the energy resource is expensive.

In economics, expensive and rising price is a sign that demand is outstriping supply. Energy is a big issue and planning need to be done years ahead as any infrastructures such as windmill, nuclear plant takes years to build. France is already more than 70% nuclear. China is currently building a few dozen more nuclear plants and has plan to build maybe even hundreds more. Maybe, we can build a gas pipe from Indonesia and ask them to sell us cheap natural gas?

[markfch]

wapobs:

grumble... grumble... scared of nuclear this and nuclear that.

but using more and more electricity, then how?

Nothing wrong to be extremely concern about nuclear safety.

After Fukushima, I expect everyone to be worried about nuclear power.

To support nuclear power so soon after Fukushima, well, I don't know what to say? :roll:

[pinky]

markfch:

wapobs:

grumble... grumble... scared of nuclear this and nuclear that.

but using more and more electricity, then how?

Nothing wrong to be extremely concern about nuclear safety.

After Fukushima, I expect everyone to be worried about nuclear power.

To support nuclear power so soon after Fukushima, well, I don't know what to say? :roll:

agree, especially the images shown on the TV were still fresh in our minds and nobody knows the scary side effects years down the road

[WeiHan]

markfch:

To support nuclear power so soon after Fukushima, well, I don't know what to say? :roll:

It highlighted how serious and pressing the energy problem is, I don't mean just Singapore but worldwide.