Club Breastfeeding Mums

[phankao]

WCW:

SAHM_TAN:

[quote=\"buds\"]What's with Zoe? Share share..


There's also milk powder for lactating moms.
There are a few brands in the market.

Personally, the chocolate flavoured ones are yumm.

:lol:

There was an interview conducted after she gave birth to her DS1. She said that she had over supply of breastmilk, so much so, there's no more space in the fridge to keep them. I think she mentioned she gave some away or bath in it or for facial, something like that. What stuck in my mind was that she had so much bm, she did not know what to do

same as me :oops:
that's why i bf ds for 1yr[/quote]The milk for lactating mothers? Builds on your psyche only lah. It's not all that much different from any other milk. You might as well be taking your multivitamins.

As long as you don't let anything interfere with baby's demand-feeding (eg. that monster of a pump), generally your body should have no problem supplying what your baby needs. Don't keep trying to pump and say don't have. Your pump is not your baby. Your body doesn't naturally respond to a pump.

[SAHM_TAN]

phankao:

Your pump is not your baby. Your body doesn't naturally respond to a pump.

:lol: I heard something similar from a PD to a new mother. He was saying must let bb latch on.

In beginning still must latch but for mums going to work, they will have to plan when to let bb have bottle.

[SAHM_TAN]

WCW:

SAHM_TAN:

[quote=\"buds\"]What's with Zoe? Share share..


There's also milk powder for lactating moms.
There are a few brands in the market.

Personally, the chocolate flavoured ones are yumm.

:lol:

There was an interview conducted after she gave birth to her DS1. She said that she had over supply of breastmilk, so much so, there's no more space in the fridge to keep them. I think she mentioned she gave some away or bath in it or for facial, something like that. What stuck in my mind was that she had so much bm, she did not know what to do

same as me :oops:
that's why i bf ds for 1yr[/quote]Did you use the excess for facial?

[MummyThreeStreams]

LeeTaiTai:

Hi MTS , thanks for the encouragement , I pumpout to know how much they drink and every 6 hourly I tried 3-4 hourly , supply is even lower ! Even my maid look at my milk supply say it's so little , ask me to eat spinach but I tried doesn't work much

Hi LeeTaiTai,
But if you are latching on directly, pumping out after they nurse won't tell you how much they've taken...only how much your pump can squeeze out at that point...give you an example, if yesterday you pumped 70 ml after nursing, but today you can only pump 50ml, it could mean they have taken 20ml more, not that you are producing 20ml less. And many babies go through a growth spurt at about 3 months so they suddenly need more milk. the breasts may take a coulpe of days of increased stimulation from babies to respond with increased production. So you may find a couple of days of fussy babies.

Also, as Phankao says, pumps are never as good at removing milk as a well-latched on baby. And some pumps are clearly not as good as others.

To monitor if they have enough, you should check their diaper output and weight gain.

If you are sure your supply has dropped, you can try the various suggestions made by the other mummies here. In addition, you can try gradually reducing the amount of supplements given, so that the babies will be encouraged to take more from the breasts. This stimulates your breasts to produce more. Pumping after nursing, even when no milk is being expressed, also helps to stimulate the breasts. The whole idea is to encourage your breasts to think more milk is needed, so that it will produce more milk. However, you have twins and are probably already very exhausted. Additional pumping may make you too tired and affect your supply. Best is if you can put babies to the breast more. Relaxation techniques help too, coz if you are very tense, even if you have milk in the breast, the milk will not be ejected. That's why warm compresses, massage etc. are so helpful.

Finally, has your period returned? Sometimes women notice that their supply dips quite a bit just before their period. Milk production is affected by hormones and the menstrual cycle causes the hormone balance to change.

Unless you have a physical or medical issue, you should be able to increase your milk supply by increased stimulation of your breasts, supported by relaxation techniques and possibly herbs, such as fenugreek (some women find 3 pills 3 times a day helpful, but it doesn't work for all).

Hope this helps! If you need to talk to someone, try calling the Breastfeeding Mothers Support Group hotline at 63323558. They are manned by volunteer counsellors though, so you might have to wait for someone to get back to you.

[buds]

phankao:

SAHM_TAN:

[quote=\"buds\"]What's with Zoe? Share share..


There's also milk powder for lactating moms.
There are a few brands in the market.

Personally, the chocolate flavoured ones are yumm.

:lol:

There was an interview conducted after she gave birth to her DS1. She said that she had over supply of breastmilk, so much so, there's no more space in the fridge to keep them. I think she mentioned she gave some away or bath in it or for facial, something like that. What stuck in my mind was that she had so much bm, she did not know what to do

The milk for lactating mothers? Builds on your psyche only lah. It's not all that much different from any other milk. You might as well be taking your multivitamins.

As long as you don't let anything interfere with baby's demand-feeding (eg. that monster of a pump), generally your body should have no problem supplying what your baby needs. Don't keep trying to pump and say don't have. Your pump is not your baby. Your body doesn't naturally respond to a pump.[/quote]Heyya phankao, to a certain extent... yes... stuff out in the market are
meant to built on ones psyche. That i do agree.. We all know that and
yet there are still some of us suckers who go for those slimming pills
and coffee and what nots and it will state in the fine print that they
(the stuff) needs to be coupled with a better diet & regular exercise.
Like duh. :stupid: I know that. :slapshead: But milk is still good is
it not? Even if just to satisfy the psyche part of it all, milk is good
for us too. While we always harp on the goodness of milk for our
children, many of us neglect the need for milk for our own body.
Osteoperosis and all that... scary. It does also helps boost the
esteem of another breastfeeding mom to stirve on in cases of
obstacles. Better than just throw in the towel, still okay to
try all options available whether or not it works, right?

As for the pump... yeh.. i get watcha mean boi. :roll: My Medela
Electric was like my breast-friend if ya noe wat i mean. :rotflmao:
I had so much milk that it hurts every 3hrly... sometimes less than
3hrs already super engorged. Hubs likes to tease me & quip to the
baby, \"There's mommy on her grass-cutting-machine again, baby...\"

After the initial glitch of latching on for DD1, the milk supply came in
steady streams. Btwn 250ml to almost 300mls per side during expression
I was exhausted. Imagine if i had to use a manual! I think i'd :faint:! I def
agree that the natural suckling response is the best way to signal to the
body of the required supply. :celebrate: I needed both bb and machine or
else i'd in pain..

SAHM_TAN... tks for sharing... after i read it i suppose i am like her
(Zoe). :lol: I know the feeling. My freezer was full to the brim too!
I had to get another separate one just for expressed milk! :faint:
But i didn't use it for facial or what nots though.. A staff
of mine used to say that i should give that small bucket i pump
into during lunch breaks like clockwork to a deserving cat or
something... or sell it to someone who can have use for it,
cos i had to throw mine away when in office. No freezer
or a cold enuff fridge. Aniwaes, since i was still breast
feeding exclusively... the stock in the freezers didn't
seem to budge. Just got more everyday! :faint:

I breastfed DD1 almost 2years. DD2 almost 3 years. As for chubs,
will see how it goes... hope to wean him off sooner. Not much
luck this week since he's fallen sick, that's the only food he'd
take.

[Picolo]

buds:

Hubs likes to tease me & quip to the

baby, \"There's mommy on her grass-cutting-machine again, baby...\"

Bingo :laugh: haha... 'grass-cutting machine' sound - that's how I really thought it sounded when I used the pump years ago, esp in the quiet of the nites. Sure bring back vivid memories man. Can even smell the distinctive freshly-brewed BM now... :lovesite:

[buds]

Yuh.. vivid awrite.. I relive the experience for the third time now. :lol:

The demand and supply now quite stable so i waste less time hunched
back letting the machine do me. (I read as i express usually so i at least
get something in.. other times i can come here KSP-ing too.. simultaneously)
As for freshly brewed, a toast to that! :celebrate: Just at the right temperature
ready to drink.. just like those corning ware products they say from freezer to oven/
stove and to the table (to serve)...

For us, it should read... from breast the best. :celebrate:

For those times i had extra, DD2 offered to drink them instead
of throwing in the sink... (yah, hubs doesn't allow me to keep
anymore.. ) and she exclaimed once when i passed her
the full cup of milk... \"Mommy, how come your milk is warm?\"

[terry]

hi all,

any1 can share on hw to buildup milk ss after a c-section?

cos most books only tell u latch on straight after a natural birth…not much mentioned abt after c-section when the mummy will zz frm GA/ weak frm surgery.

is it super impt to latch on immed after delivery? or can wait for awhile? cos the nurse will sure feef bb with FM in the nursery.

[phankao]

terry:

hi all,

any1 can share on hw to buildup milk ss after a c-section?

cos most books only tell u latch on straight after a natural birth..not much mentioned abt after c-section when the mummy will zz frm GA/ weak frm surgery.

is it super impt to latch on immed after delivery? or can wait for awhile? cos the nurse will sure feef bb with FM in the nursery.

Nurses will assist you to position and latch baby on if you had C-Section. But you have to tell them ahead of time. Many C-section mums have done this. Then if you indicate full breastfeeding, they will just continue to bring baby to you every 2hrs and help you with latch until you can handle yourself.

[phankao]

MummyThreeStreams:

Pumping after nursing, even when no milk is being expressed, also helps to stimulate the breasts. The whole idea is to encourage your breasts to think more milk is needed, so that it will produce more milk. However, you have twins and are probably already very exhausted. Additional pumping may make you too tired and affect your supply. Best is if you can put babies to the breast more. Relaxation techniques help too, coz if you are very tense, even if you have milk in the breast, the milk will not be ejected. That's why warm compresses, massage etc. are so helpful.

Pumping AFTER nursing does not really serve that particular purpose. Because it just prolongs your nursing session.

To increase milk supply, whether by direct nursing(preferred and more effective) or by pumping, the key is *frequency* and not *duration*. So it is more effective for a mum to nurse for 15-20mins every 1hour or every 1.5hrs than to try to go for 30-45mins every 3hrs, KWIM?