2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take
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Pen88n:
No doubt foreigners (especially those from non-english speaking background) have disadvantages in English but they do have their langauge advantage (example CL) as well.These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.
Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.
Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don't we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?
I really have no doubt about their attitude/determine and admire their maturity/discipine but why should the majority be placed at a disadvantage position ?
You choose your battle to fight...2 yrs age differences in primary school is a lot of different from 2 years in 30s, 40s or 50s.
My concern is still on the impact on aggregrate scores. -
THC:
It is not only English. In Singapore, English is the base for Maths and Science too. So, in fact, there are 3 subjects involved at the very least.
No doubt foreigners (especially those from non-english speaking background) have disadvantages in English but they do have their langauge advantage (example CL) as well.Pen88n:
These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.
Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.
Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don't we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?
I really have no doubt about their attitude/determine and admire their maturity/discipine but why should the majority be placed at a disadvantage position ?
You choose your battle to fight...2 yrs age differences in primary school is a lot of different from 2 years in 30s, 40s or 50s.
My concern is still on the impact on aggregrate scores.
And you are comparing language advantage for PRC only. What about foreign students from our neighbouring countries like Thailand or Vietnam? These students may not have language advantage afterall.
Majority of Singaporean students have 6 years (if you are counting from Pri sch only, not to mention Nursery and Kindergarten) in the education system here, and you are saying they are at a disadvantage position compared with someone who joined the education system for 3 years only? Just because the person is 2 years older? :scratchhead: -
Actually if you are not good in english doesn’t mean you will be poor in maths. I scored A1 for both A maths & E maths but C6 in English for o levels.
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bigsnoopy:
Actually if you are not good in english doesn't mean you will be poor in maths. I scored A1 for both A maths & E maths but C6 in English for o levels.
This type of results is frequently seen in a typical good neighbourhood sec school. Usually struggle in econs/gp at A-level but perform strongly in poly. -
Pen88n:
It is not only English. In Singapore, English is the base for Maths and Science too. So, in fact, there are 3 subjects involved at the very least.
No doubt foreigners (especially those from non-english speaking background) have disadvantages in English but they do have their langauge advantage (example CL) as well.THC:
[quote=\"Pen88n\"]These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.
Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.
Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don't we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?
I really have no doubt about their attitude/determine and admire their maturity/discipine but why should the majority be placed at a disadvantage position ?
You choose your battle to fight...2 yrs age differences in primary school is a lot of different from 2 years in 30s, 40s or 50s.
My concern is still on the impact on aggregrate scores.
And you are comparing language advantage for PRC only. What about foreign students from our neighbouring countries like Thailand or Vietnam? These students may not have language advantage afterall.
Majority of Singaporean students have 6 years (if you are counting from Pri sch only, not to mention Nursery and Kindergarten) in the education system here, and you are saying they are at a disadvantage position compared with someone who joined the education system for 3 years only? Just because the person is 2 years older? :scratchhead:[/quote]There are hundreds if not thousands non Singaporean studying in Primary so each individual is different but no matter where you are from, you choose your own battle and ground to fight and if you choose to come to a foreign land which langauge might be a disadvantage or advantage, then that is that.
But why should the majority give you the head start or leeway for you to catch up ??? I would believe most of them is already exceling in their study back home and not the typical 8 years primary school students.
P.S: Mandrian enrichment classes is popping up in every corner and have so much demand so Singaporean kids does not neccessary have the overall langauge advantage but definitely lose out in age. -
Hush.. hush.. mummies..
P2A1 starts counting down... know all abit stress up ya..
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ChiefKiasu:
Well said, Chief.
P1 registration is really just the beginning. Getting into the right school is important, but what comes after getting into the school is MUCH more important than getting into the school.Twin_mum:
After reading all the post, felt like a really REALLY lousy parent. Didn't do PV, no alumnus, didnt move to near good sch.
My twins r registering for P1 this mth under P2c. I m staying in woodlands. Wat sch should I choose? All average only?
Feeling Very depressed.. Twins..any wrong move, and is multiplied by 2..
If only I hv join this forum earlier.. Any advice is most welcome..
If you choose an elite school, it will almost be like YOU as the PARENT are also going into the school. The stress level on YOU to ensure your child \"performs\" is much higher. That is why elite schools retain their titles - because parents push their children to be one up against the rest of the cohort. You will definitely be drawn into the race because it will show in your child's results.
Most parents prefer their children to be more independent in their studies. But it is difficult to do so these days, because of the advanced training and help that many of the other children get from external sources, or from their parents' incessant coaching. Very few children are mature enough to know how to learn by themselves.
As a parent, you should now be focusing more on planning your strategy on how you would want your child to grow as he/she enters P1. How to achieve a balanced approach so that your child can continue to enjoy precious moments of childhood while still attaining the standards expected by the schools? That is a much more important question than getting your child into the school! -
Castle House:
How good a school is to your kid is directly related to which teacher your kid gets. If your kid gets a good, nurturing teacher who covers the syllabus well, it doesn't matter if you're in a neighbourhood school or an elite school. Elite schools have not so good teachers too. I suppose the difference is at an elite school, parents are more likely to kick up a fuss if the teacher is underperforming or the parent simply sends the kid to tuition to make up for the inadequate teaching in school.Just to share..
Neighbour school not necessary is a bad school... those elite school not necessary is top school.. *no offence*
A matter of fact.. SVPS.. was not a good neighbour school when dh was studied there.. in fact.. according to him... it was a 'Ah Beng' school.. :rotflmao:
It was only recent years, they have top scholars there.. that why it became popular and in other's opinion a 'good' school..
Who knows, maybe one of the days, your kids will be a scholar thus bring up the level of the school, and make it a popular and 'elite' school .. well.. combination effort from all isn't it..
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KSP:
that PRC girl was 14 when she took the PSLE that yr .... it was like a Sec2 student taking PSLE again...[/quote]I read somewhere that the next highest scorers in Qifa after her were about 260+ only.mummy of 3:
It was only recent years, they have top scholars there.. that why it became popular and in other's opinion a 'good' school..
[quote]Just like Qifa PS. Top Scholars in 2009 then start balloting in P2C in 2010... -
Castle House:
What is this 14yo PRC girl?
Qiu Biqing, top PSLE scorer of 2009.
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