Give citizens priority in Primary 1 registration

[Busymom]

Luanee:

Actually I think citizens here do not have any advantage over PRs here at all, be it housing, education etc... Everytime u see the sentence 'citizens and PRs' being grouped together. IF I am a PR here, I also wont convert to a citizen as there is absolutely no advantage at all.

Precisely! That is the sore point for many Singaporeans right? The key therefore is to make sure there are more benefits to becoming Singaporeans. Otherwise, might as well remain as PR, right?

I know so many PRs who said that blatantly.

[KS_me]

caroline3sg:

[quote]I think PR can compete at Ph2C where all is equal but in other phases shld limit to citizens first.

That was what I meant when I mentioned exlude PR from 2B. This would free up space for citizens to volunteer.

I also think that PR should be together with 2Csupplementary, not 2C.[/quote]Foreign talent obtained PR.... eventually become Singaporean and the origin Singaporean will compete with these new recruit Singaporean who is so much richer..

...erm..... how to compete??? :?

[Busymom]

qms:

Luanee:

Actually I think citizens here do not have any advantage over PRs here at all, be it housing, education etc...

In terms of housing, only Singaporeans are eligible to purchase HDB flats DIRECTLY from HDB. PRs can only purchase HDB flats from the resale market.

Well, this benefit of buying a flat from HDB diret is not absolute, it only applies to Singaporeans whose monthly household salary is below a cap.

[KS_me]

Luanee:

Actually I think citizens here do not have any advantage over PRs here at all, be it housing, education etc... Everytime u see the sentence 'citizens and PRs' being grouped together. IF I am a PR here, I also wont convert to a citizen as there is absolutely no advantage at all.

Have lar... the recent medical new term and condition mentioned that PR claimable amount only 89% compared to Singaporean at 100%

[tianzhu]

Busymom:

By the way, as far as Jet Li is concerned, at least he bites the bullet and converts his citizenship. So what's there for us to complain about??

Hi

When it comes to complaints against foreign talents,I am sure it's not against people like Jet Li.He is from another league.He is very famous ,rich and can bring with him immense benefits to Singapore.I am not sure which schools his children are attending.It may be Singapore American School, in such a case his children would not be competing with ours.

[Busymom]

caroline3sg:

[quote]Or those who die die do not want to convert because of \"personal reasons\" would have to do PV under phase 2B

I don't agree with above. Many PRs jump queue by joining 2B. Someone already mentioned, PR wife can do PV while citizen mum has to juggle work, home, kids etc. 2B should omit PRs coz many citizens are from 2C.[/quote]That's why earlier I said maybe there should be a quota in each school for PRs to do PV work. Some PRs would also argue that they too have to juggle work, home, kids, etc. I believe we do have a lot of PRs who are working mothers here. For them, they probably do not have the extended family support (not that I have any as well), so it is worst for them I think. Having said that, there are of course the rich tai-tai PRs who do not need to work and they are the ones who have lots of time. But then, these are the rich foreigners that our govt like to welcome, right? - a lot ancillary benefits to the economy, which ultimately are for the common good of this country. So again, we can't complain.

So under phase 2B, PRs can volunteer, as all prospecting PVs are subject to the school's selection, either there should be a quota for the PRs, or the PRs should be subject to lower priority as compared to citizens when the times comes for phase 2B balloting as I suggested earlier.

[Busymom]

oneheart:

I'm not sure what's the procedure to apply for PR but I'm beginning to think that it's relatively easy & advantageous that \"foreign talent\" are just getting it to enjoy the benefits.


I think PR can compete at Ph2C where all is equal but in other phases shld limit to citizens first.

Why should PRs compete equally with citizens in phase 2C?

For some parents, they may want to do PV with their choice school, but in certain schools, it is very hard to be PV unless they have something which the school is looking for. Also, there are schools which do not have the PV scheme. These parents would have no choice but go to phase 2C. Under 2C, can you imagine if the child is staying near a school that happens to be very popular, and there are no other good schools nearby, or maybe all other nearby schools happen to be very popular, he could end up having to commute to some far-away schools if he was unlucky at the balloting.

Since the resource is scarce (good school), I say that there should be a distinction made between citizens and PRs staying in the same location (i.e. distance from school). Why should a citizen be subject to having to travel to a school further away daily for 6 years while a PR could have the benefit of going to a nearby school which is highly popular, only to have this PR then pack up and go somewhere else before NS??

[Penza]

Tankee


She was quoting herself from her initial post.

[Penza]

BTW I wrote ths to ST but it never got posted:


In her letter, Mrs Agawal have hit the gist of why PR students should not be given equal chance for Primary 1 registration. She says that if her children were unable to secure a place in a good public school, why would her family to stay? A Singpore citizen will never be able to say that. We are here to stay and as such deserve the right to choose before a permanent resident.

My son, a 4th generation Singaporean, was not able to secure a place in a school of our choice which is 30m from our home of 11 years. My son, like myself, will have to go through National Service to contribute to the country's defense and not just the economy. Even now, with phase 2C supplement, my son might not be able to get into his second school of choice.

This plays out not only for me but many others of my citizen friends who find themselves out of their school of choice due to the number of PRs enrolling. Take note that this intake happens to be the year when Singapore had the lowest number of babies.

I have many permanent residents as good friends but this touches on the rights of a Singapore citizen, and in no way belittling the grand contributions done for those who have come to work here.

[KS_me]

Busymom:

By the way, as far as Jet Li is concerned, at least he bites the bullet and converts his citizenship. So what's there for us to complain about??

Hi

I'm quoting his name as an example for Foreign talent. Not meant to complain. My apology if it does somehow disturb your feelings.