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    All About Teaching and Learning Phonics

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      tamarind
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      sphinx:
      Hi Tamarind


      My boy has mastered the 3 letter words from the vowels list like cat, dog etc. but he does make a mistake at times in sound those 3 letter words. Now, I thought of progressing to blends. I started with 'ch' and 'th'. He doesn't seems to get it when I told him that when we combine 'c' and 'h', we get a totally different sound. He still sound it out as 'ke' for 'c' and 'he' for 'h'. So I'm totally at a loss whether should I proceed on or just hand in there at the 3 letter word first and let him practice some more or did I start him off with a difficult blend?

      He is reading book 3A of peter and jane now and there are some words that he will be deem to forget. Should I proceed to 3B if he don't remember quite a few words. I tried pasting those words and revise with him every now and then but he will still forget. How did you get your boy to remember the words?

      Can you recommend any other books he could read to practice based on your experience if he is reading 3A of Peter and Jane now?

      Sorry for the long post . Many thanks in advance.
      Hi sphinx,
      Don't need to say sorry šŸ˜‰ I enjoy discussing about this topic.

      You should proceed to book 3B, because book 3A and 3B use the same words, which are repeated many times through the books. Children need many repetitions to remember a word, so long as he knows about 80% of the words, then it is OK to proceed to the next level (4A, 4B, etc).

      My boy also does not remember all the words when he finished one level. The common words are repeated through the whole series all the way to book 12, so he gets to read them again and again. By the time he finished reading book 11a, he is already very familiar with all the common words.

      So don't worry, just continue to let your boy read.

      For \"ch\" and \"th\", try showing him the starfall.com website :

      http://www.starfall.com/n/skills/ch/load.htm?f
      http://www.starfall.com/n/skills/th/load.htm?f

      Let him watch it many times to become familiar with it.

      The fact is the \"ch\" sometimes sound like \"k\", like in \"chorus\" šŸ˜‰

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        Charmaine_chong
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        Hi Tamarind,


        My son manage to master lettersound 90% of them. He has been watching Leapfrog Talking Words 1 since 2 weeks ago and on zoophonics weekend class.

        Will teach him words blending next week.

        I taught him P&J 1 & 2 before introdution of phonics. He once remembered all words in book 1 but has seems forgotten all now.

        Can i check for P&J, am i suppose to go through a page or two once daily or to get him read a page 3 times daily? End of book 1a&b, do i need to test him on words?

        Thanks for your patience and time for answering my queries.

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          sphinx
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          Thank you very much for the reply Tamarind. Can you share what other books which you let your boy read as a practice other than p&j series when he is at level 3 of p&j? Thanks.

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            tamarind
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            Charmaine_chong:
            Hi Tamarind,


            My son manage to master lettersound 90% of them. He has been watching Leapfrog Talking Words 1 since 2 weeks ago and on zoophonics weekend class.

            Will teach him words blending next week.

            I taught him P&J 1 & 2 before introdution of phonics. He once remembered all words in book 1 but has seems forgotten all now.

            Can i check for P&J, am i suppose to go through a page or two once daily or to get him read a page 3 times daily? End of book 1a&b, do i need to test him on words?

            Thanks for your patience and time for answering my queries.
            Hi Charmaine,
            Your son is progressing well !

            My advise is not to repeat the same page 3 times, it will be too boring for the child. I only let my boy read the same pages once a day. Book 1a is very simple. My suggestion is :

            Read this on day 1
            (odd number pages are pictures only)
            Page 6: Peter
            Page 8: Jane
            Page 10: Peter and Jane
            Page 12: Here is Peter and here is Jane
            Page 14: Peter is here and Jane is here.


            Read this on day 2
            (read the earlier pages as revision)
            Page 6: Peter
            Page 8: Jane
            Page 10: Peter and Jane
            Page 12: Here is Peter and here is Jane
            Page 14: Peter is here and Jane is here.
            Page 16: Here is the dog
            Page 18: Here is Jane and here is the dog


            Read this on day 3
            (read the earlier pages as revision)
            Page 6: Peter
            Page 8: Jane
            Page 10: Peter and Jane
            Page 12: Here is Peter and here is Jane
            Page 14: Peter is here and Jane is here.
            Page 16: Here is the dog
            Page 18: Here is Jane and here is the dog
            Page 20: Jane likes the dog and Peter likes the dog.
            Page 22: The dog likes Jane and the dog likes Peter
            Page 24: I like Peter.
            Page 26: I like Jane.
            Page 28: I like the dog.


            This is only a suggestion. Every child is different. If your child already knows the words like \"here\" and \"is\" very well, then there is no need to repeat the earlier pages. For my boy, I don't repeat any pages at all from book 4 onwards, after that, he reads a new page every day.

            On the bottom of every page, there are new words. What I did was to revise the words at the bottom of every page with my boy once a day.

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              tamarind
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              sphinx:
              Thank you very much for the reply Tamarind. Can you share what other books which you let your boy read as a practice other than p&j series when he is at level 3 of p&j? Thanks.

              Hi sphinx,
              I also let him read the Dr Seuss books :
              http://tamarindphonics.blogspot.com/2008/12/books-for-beginning-reader.html

              His nursery was using the rigby readers:
              http://www.edventurebooks.com/Rigby/Rocket/index.html

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                Charmaine_chong
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                Hi Tamarind,


                Thanks a lot.

                šŸ˜„

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                  sphinx
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                  Tamarind

                  Thanks for d info.

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                    tamarind
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                    This comment was posted on my blog.


                    http://tamarindphonics.blogspot.com/2009/05/spelling.html
                    http://www.postimage.org/

                    I am really delighted to read this comment. It reminds us how old the Peter and Jane series are. They have been around for more than 40 years ! Though most parents find it old fashion, the fact is that it is a tried and tested method and the series stands the test of time !

                    Phonics is equally important, but take note that the letter sounds must be taught together with the whole words. That is, when teaching \"c\" sounds like \"ke\", show the words \"cat\", \"can\", etc, because \"c\" often sounds like \"s\" as in \"circle\", \"cycle\", \"center\", \"city\", etc.

                    I believe that it is most effective to teach phonics and sight words(using Peter and Jane series) at the same time, so the child learns to be flexible šŸ˜‰

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                      maltbibi
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                      Hi Tamarind


                      Wanna say thanks for recommending Peter and Jane. I started few months ago but din see the result that I want. My girl was fine for the first two days reading the book. However, she lost interest and whenever I passed her the book she would turn away and said she dun like the book. Hence I stopped asking her to read.

                      Recently, I happened to read this thread again and was inspired to try the book on her again. Surprisely, she managed to finish 1a within two days. Read from your blog that it is not necessary for them to fully know the words in book a inorder to start b. So just now, I passed her the book b and she managed to finish reading the whole book. Throughout the process I kept praising her. She realised that mummy was happy and become more confident in reading.

                      I think 'm going to start her on 2a tomorrow. Isit too soon to start her on 2a?

                      Looking at the rate she is going, I may need to source for more P&J for her.

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                        kidsfirst
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                        Hi all,


                        I believe that many parents (or at least for Singaporean parents) are concerned about whether their child will grow up speaking Singlish. And on such grounds, most parents would enroll their child into language centres that boast of supplying native English teachers.

                        How important is the ability to speak proper English without any hint of Singlish? And would phonics lessons eliminate the problem of the child picking up Singlish?

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