How to tell if a child is gifted?

[Mummyof3gals]

mummyloves:

creativethinkers:

Has any parent had kids who entered Pri 1 before age of 7? Any feedback?

This is the first time i heard that kids can enter P1 b4 age 7... Is this really true??

Yes, it is possible but required supporting documents ( Psychological Assessment Report - IQ Test ) and written approval from MOE Singapore. Child must be both mentally (social maturity) and academically ready.

My girl could skips K2 and move into P1 directly but I decided not to as I do not wish to take away her golden childhood days in kindergarten. Rather I expose her to music, art, reading material, different ideas cultures that are non-academic.

[kiasumam]

read somewhere about some kids called \"Crystal children\" they are supposedly 'gifted' in amazing ways, most of these kids don't develop very quickly too.. (e.g. start talking v late) just a thought http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html


also read somewhere that if your child is bilingual before the age of 5 he will b more likely to stammer :shock: i suppose all children develop differently, i personally feel that there is no need to stress them or push them too much befor they start formal school

[sleepy]

Mummyof3gals:

My girl could skips K2 and move into P1 directly but I decided not to as I do not wish to take away her golden childhood days in kindergarten. Rather I expose her to music, art, reading material, different ideas cultures that are non-academic.

Just curious, what do you mean by 'could skip K2 & move direct to P1'?
Do you mean she's tested for giftedness & eligible to apply for early admission?

[corneyAmber]

Today’s papers reported that since 2000, MOE only allowed about 5 kids to skip grades, so the occurence is indeed rare. I believe so because I know more people who applied and were rejected. If children have alot of time on hand due to their ability to learn faster, then let them have time to smell the roses too.

[amkian]

haha I totally understand how you feel wesim! The big society crushes people =\

[sleepy]

ks2me:

Today's papers reported that since 2000, MOE only allowed about 5 kids to skip grades, so the occurence is indeed rare. I believe so because I know more people who applied and were rejected. If children have alot of time on hand due to their ability to learn faster, then let them have time to smell the roses too.

I read that only 3 out of 100,000 kids are exceptionally gifted.
If we look at Singapore birth rate, only 1 exceptionally gifted child is eligible to skip grade over 3 years of combined birth rate. Wow, indeed very very rare.

I wonder how were those 5 kids identified. Parents alerted MOE ie. submit IQ report? or screened when in primary school?

[corneyAmber]

I know 1 of the 5 kids, truly exceptional. The case was parents-driven and I believe most cases are.

[corrochan]

hi Wesim and friends,


It's great to chance upon this thread and find like-minded parents. Really agree with many wise things said above.

Don't be unduly concerned with getting kids ahead, or getting more than ready for P1.
- With so many true-KS parents out there, can you really tell who's ahead?
- And are those 'advance kids' really mean they will succeed better in life?

Just take a look at our very S'pore multi-million dollar MOE programs (SAP, Gifted, and now donno what accelerated no need exam stream):
- how many of those ppl are not doing exceedingly better than those 'normal' students?
- when our very own bank DBS hire CEO, do they hire our ex-SAP student or they hire 'foreign talent'?
- our very own temasek holdg hire another 'foreign talent' (tho left)
So if the SGP education is soooooooooo fantastic, why still need to hire 'foreign talent'? Why we don't have Nobel winner? Why after so long, still only 'Sim Wong Hoo'?

So no need to be lemming-like and follow what other parents do blindly. As parents, we need to assess our own kids, and uncover their strengths and weaknesses.

In choosing, schools or playgroup or extra-lessons, need to be careful (and I'll say sceptical) about
- those that promises what left, right, center brain stuff
- those that say 'accelerated learning' (singaporemotherhood forum has alot of those nonsense)
- those that say will make your tots bright, etc.
All BS!

For me, I focus on 2 things (to me, these are life skills):
a. value and character development , including social skills
b. exploit my children's innate curiosity and inquisitive minds - lucky for me i found a playgroup in my area that focuses on this area

I avoid schools/playgroup/kindergarten/childcare with names containing these 'key words':
- brain
- university, campus
- Einstein
- anything that sounds like raffles or stamford
- IQ....
....you know what i am driving at....

The 'ABC', '123' stuff (i.e. academic), i leave it to the kindergartens my kids attend, and i think the teachers are doing a great job already.

[schellen]

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Exactly how I feel! (I think sashimi will say the same too.)

P.S. I have a friend who moved to the States and she recently had a little girl. She wrote me to tell me that her S'porean friends with kids have become so caught up with all the enrichment nonsense that it's ridiculous to her. For me, I will only send my child for the \"traditional\" forms of enrichment like dance, art, music, etc, and only if she's interested. I deem other forms like English reading/writing, Chinese prep, tuition, etc only necessary if the child seriously needs help.

[smurf]

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but still I send my boy to chinese class, cos he just refuses to speak in chinese, :P. I fear that if he dunn like chinese, will mss out a lot of things, but other than that, no enrichment. feel that kids are kids, they should enjoy childhood.