How this EM3 student became a PhD scholar

[Mdm Koh]

3Boys:

Alright, I hear you. We should not overstream, I agree. In an utopian system, there ought to be 1;1 attention, so that each child gets pushed to his or her individual limit. Its tough enough with my own kids to even know what that is, to be honest! But in a public-shared education system, I guess there needs to be some compromise.

Cheers.

I guess you're right. There's room for improvement... that's all I'm saying.

Cheers.

[wapobs]

3Boys:

wapobs:

Not perfect, but not bad.....a few special fellas made it,
you say it helps the majority?
wat brand koyok u selling? (I know, it is the only brand on sale here.)

Okay,
demonstrate to me that it is not you selling koyok.

Tell me by what measure, international or otherwise, that the education system in Singapore has failed the MAJORITY. That it has failed to equip them with the book knowledge to be employable. That it is inferior to other national systems. Please show me the stats to back your assertion.

3boys,
citing a few isolated examples to claim that our education system help the majority is weak, like selling koyok, tio bo?
if you had cited better examples, I would not have commented.

when did I say our education has failed the majority?
when did I say our education fail to equip us to be employable?
when did i say it is inferior to others?
what is my assertion that you now demand stats to back up?
all these are words you are trying to put inside my mouth,
makes you look even more like koyok seller now leh.

[MadScientist]

verykiasu2010:

KSP:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]so the offending word is 'EM3' ..... it does not exist anymore, by the way

actually the streaming for weaker students at primary level is still there.... is just that they have renamed it as foundation class.....

I know. they renamed it. streaming is a necessary 'evil'[/quote]I'd like to disagree with that... having been streamed out...

In the lower rungs, the students segregate themselves... I had classmates who were just stuck at the bottom cos everyone else expected them to be there. All other better students of the better classes really exclude you when you are at the lower rungs of the ladder. This is something that the policy makers have no idea about.... and that is what streaming does in effect... that is why although not rare for bright sparks, there are far and few between.

I never had the opportunity to learn what I wanted to learn... until I figured that I had to play the game to determine my own opportunity/destiny. The system disallowed me to learn science... I had a love for it since age 9... and then deprived me of as much science as I'd love until I left the system for a crossover that few ever make.

IMHO, streaming is not necessary...

[3Boys]

wapobs:

3Boys:

[quote=\"wapobs\"]
Not perfect, but not bad.....a few special fellas made it,
you say it helps the majority?
wat brand koyok u selling? (I know, it is the only brand on sale here.)

Okay,
demonstrate to me that it is not you selling koyok.

Tell me by what measure, international or otherwise, that the education system in Singapore has failed the MAJORITY. That it has failed to equip them with the book knowledge to be employable. That it is inferior to other national systems. Please show me the stats to back your assertion.

3boys,
citing a few isolated examples to claim that our education system help the majority is weak, like selling koyok, tio bo?
if you had cited better examples, I would not have commented.

when did I say our education has failed the majority?
when did I say our education fail to equip us to be employable?
when did i say it is inferior to others?
what is my assertion that you now demand stats to back up?
all these are words you are trying to put inside my mouth,
makes you look even more like koyok seller now leh. [/quote]Whatever......

[3Boys]

MadScientist:

IMHO, streaming is not necessary...

I have relatives and neighbours who are teachers. In their opinion, its really too much to manage if you have too diverse a cohort with different learning abilities in one class.

My DS1 has been paired with a weaker student in class and been asked to 'guide' this student along in a couple of subjects. Whilst I don't really mind, as it will inculcate the right values in terms of helping a fellow human, I can't help but have the nagging feeling that he could be further ahead in his work if the teacher were concentrating on stretching the better students. But that would be a selfish desire, so I quash it and try and help him along outside of school. I really don't blame the teacher, if there are weak students, she needs to help them first.

So, I believe that streaming is the lesser of the 2 evils overall, as it allows students to develop at their own pace, as long as there is a safety net for late developers. Will there be exceptions? Indeed, so we ought not to make the divergent paths too difficult to navigate, that I agree.