Presidential Election 2011
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Angelight:
The part that he mentioned on NTF's contribution was funny... His contribution to the housing in Singapore for those who can afford the price.Insider, I watched the youtube link and totally agree with you, and Dr TCB.
Money shld not be a deciding factor to name a public hospital (which also uses taxpapers' money) after a tycoon just becos he donated $125m out of the over $900m to the hospital. No offence to NTF and his family, but like what Dr TCB said in the interview, it's the principle behind the naming. He said he wouldn't want to tell his grandkids (when they asked him why the NTF hospital was named such) that it was becos somebody signed a big cheque to the hospital. Well said, Dr TCB! And he has just scored a big point and alot of respect from me! -
KSP:
everytime i turn on the radio, so and so support TT as Pres..... every night i turn on TV news so and so support TT as Pres..... it's like advertisments....... worse than sms/email spams........
may backfire. some TT supporters may decide no need to go vote since his support is already so \"high\" -
raysusan:
yqyq:
TT too many endorsement....at least backfire me :pokeeye:
he is the elite here, so i can expect that
but base on the track record, I dont see any good contribution of him to the nation in fact the other way
one of the many that i dislike was his objection on building MRT for the nation in 1981
OMG..he even object building MRT...means he not really far vision person :roll: -
NTF was a property developer and many private condos were built by his company...
MMM:
The part that he mentioned on NTF's contribution was funny... His contribution to the housing in Singapore for those who can afford the price.Angelight:
Insider, I watched the youtube link and totally agree with you, and Dr TCB.
Money shld not be a deciding factor to name a public hospital (which also uses taxpapers' money) after a tycoon just becos he donated $125m out of the over $900m to the hospital. No offence to NTF and his family, but like what Dr TCB said in the interview, it's the principle behind the naming. He said he wouldn't want to tell his grandkids (when they asked him why the NTF hospital was named such) that it was becos somebody signed a big cheque to the hospital. Well said, Dr TCB! And he has just scored a big point and alot of respect from me! -
Busymom:
I agree with Catherine Lim on this wholeheartedly. It is a very confused remit, and its brought to the fore due to recent political climate.
The new president , no matter how he chooses to play out his role,will be in the unenviable position of being continually scrutinized and criticized in the light of his previous formal association, or absence of it, with the PAP. If he had been a former stalwart in the PAP administration, and had been publicly favoured by the government, he will be seen as just one more in a line of perfectly acquiescent, cosily harmonious presidents, exactly as the PAP had always intended and desired. If he had been formerly a member of the PAP but had pointedly distanced himself from it, whatever efforts he makes at asserting his independence will be overshadowed by the past links, or even seen as the sheer futility of trying to shake off an unshakeable, deeply entrenched PAP mentality. If he had never been a PAP member, the expectations of him will be so unrealistically high that whatever evidence of independence he displays will elicit disappointment as being not enough. And since the presidential salary is tied to ministerial salaries, any angry response to the outcome of the review currently being undertaken, will not spare him.
In the new political climate after GE 2011, the greatest loser might just be the EP, because he will have to bear the brunt of the anomalies, confusions and conflicts of a society that has been suddenly and unexpectedly thrust into the flux of transition. He will be stuck in an impossible situation, for the out-of-bounds markers set out in the constitution will strait-jacket him, making a mockery of his popular mandate and the will of the people who had directly elected him. He has continually to maintain the difficult balance between the need, on the one hand,to present the magisterial bearing and calm composure and detachment expected of a president, and, on the other, to project an image of empathy and affinity with the man-in-the-street, all the time aware that he is being watched and judged, and that the savage criticisms and relentless exposure of his private life, that he had endured during the run-up to the election, will by no means end with the high office he now holds. Rightly or wrongly, he will be linked with a government that has fallen so far in the people’s regard that close association with them is seen as something of a taint. With the traditional protective mantle of his office stripped away, he will be at the mercy of netizens who themselves enjoy the protective anonymity of the Internet.
The experience of the presidential election of 2011 could well be the most bruising, divisive and ugliest election in Singapore’s history. It may be necessary when a system ends up with nobody being a winner, and everybody having a bad taste in the mouth, to take another look at it, and subject it to an honest review. -
3Boys:
Dear 3Boys,1amber:
If they are called populist it is still ok provided they sincerely look after the welfare of the people of Singapore.
Almost by definition, populist policies, as touted by the politicians who support them, aim to \"sincerely look after the welfare of the people\", but at what long term cost?
It scares me to h... when people start saying that populist policies are ok, its a sure sign of decline for a country.
Check out Greece.
Nope, not ok, not in my book.
Please do not cut out a term or phrase, tear it apart with your eloquence and repaint my comments. Don't put words in my mouth like what you did before. I know you are out attack me subtly because I disagreed with you in another thread. I request that you do not harass me anymore. Enough is enough with you. Won't be back. Thank you and have a nice day.
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Watching the Nomination ‘live’ on CNA. These are my observations and personal opinions.
TCB - speak with sincerity and dignity, can almost feel his heart for Singapore and the people of spore; stresses he wants to be a unifying figure to bring sporeans together.
TT - speak confidently and assuredly. enough said.
TJS - opens his mouth only and "offended" the government already. Say he wants to be the "checks & balances" to (quoting him) prevent the government from "abusing their power".
TKL - the only one to speak in 4 languages, yes, including tamil when calling for votes. And unlike the other 3, he spoke in Malay first, followed by Tamil, Chinese and English. Strange…seems like he is trying to garner the minority votes. After his speech, he even ‘hi-fives’ with his team of supporters on stage. Hmmm… abit making light of the serious and dignified PE, if u ask me. -
Catherine's link is here http://catherinelim.sg/
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1amber:
Nothing personal and no harassment intended, sorry if you feel that way. I excerpt for brevity and crispness, not to distort. Its always strictly on the issues and I happen to disagree with you on this one (yes, I happen to disagree with you on the other one also).
Dear 3Boys,
Please do not cut out a term or phrase, tear it apart with your eloquence and repaint my comments. Don't put words in my mouth like what you did before. I know you are out attack me subtly because I disagreed with you in another thread. I request that you do not harass me anymore. Enough is enough with you. Won't be back. Thank you and have a nice day.
Even vks2010 and I can agree on things, and he and I have had far more tetchy encounters.
I assure you it is nothing personal, and I apologise again if you feel that way, my style is just robust. -
insider:
I personally don't view this issue with such gravity, but I agree with you that its one of those \"What were they thinking :whut: ??\" moments. Quite poor judgement. Perhaps name an annex or a block, but a whole Hospital??
As a citizen, I feel our govt is so high handed. In such a naming with long term implications that I think deserves public opinions, they can just go ahead without qualms.
Perhaps this is the usual way that they do things - I decide you follow can oredi, don't need to ask so much...
That Mr NTF has profited immensely from the runaway property prices makes it all the more galling for everyday Singaporeans.
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