All About Parent Volunteers (PV)

[ChiefKiasu]

deardear07:

mayb if ur worried, then u just let the support group know that ur not intending to put ur kids in that school lo...bt oso weird if they hear that frm u...most ppl wun do volunteering job for no good reason...

I believe there are many parents in Singapore that really want to help out with no ulterior motive. These are the ones that the schools would trust more than the once-in-a-lifetime PVs. I know of a few myself - heard from one of how she got the parents support group to implement some kind of a food-cart in school after observing some children who do not have money for buying food during recess. I was very touched by that.

[tohwei]

ChiefKiasu:

deardear07:

mayb if ur worried, then u just let the support group know that ur not intending to put ur kids in that school lo...bt oso weird if they hear that frm u...most ppl wun do volunteering job for no good reason...

I believe there are many parents in Singapore that really want to help out with no ulterior motive. These are the ones that the schools would trust more than the once-in-a-lifetime PVs. I know of a few myself - heard from one of how she got the parents support group to implement some kind of a food-cart in school after observing some children who do not have money for buying food during recess. I was very touched by that.

HOLA

at the end of 40hrs school will issue pv a letter to prove that pv had commit for 40 hrs duties. also i know some parents from west grove pri had been a pv for all most 3 years at least very commited go to school at least thrice times a week. fully in charge all pv duties allocation, registration etc also when cone to any thing for pv applications these senior pv will be fully in charge no teacher involved . good in the sense that they really take the effort to do their job

[deardear07]

ChiefKiasu:

deardear07:

mayb if ur worried, then u just let the support group know that ur not intending to put ur kids in that school lo...bt oso weird if they hear that frm u...most ppl wun do volunteering job for no good reason...

I believe there are many parents in Singapore that really want to help out with no ulterior motive. These are the ones that the schools would trust more than the once-in-a-lifetime PVs. I know of a few myself - heard from one of how she got the parents support group to implement some kind of a food-cart in school after observing some children who do not have money for buying food during recess. I was very touched by that.

kudos to those PVs!

[VooVoo]

Is there any Nanyang PV here? Or anyone who intends to try to apply for PV at NYPS?

[Luanee]

VooVoo:

Is there any Nanyang PV here? Or anyone who intends to try to apply for PV at NYPS?

According to past history, NYPS conducted balloting for p2B in 2005 and 2006. And though there were no balloting in 2007 and 2008, the take-up rate was quite high (51 applicants for 56 places in 2007 and 50 applicants for 51 places in 2008). So my advice is u do PV + stay within 1km. That would be best.

To share my experience, I am a PV in a girls school. We need to pass through an interview first, and the school allowed both me and my husband to accumulate the 40 hrs together (ie if both of us helped out at an event, the hours get multiplied by 2). We stayed >2km and managed to get in this year without balloting, as per past year history for this school

[corneyAmber]

deardear07:

mayb if ur worried, then u just let the support group know that ur not intending to put ur kids in that school lo...bt oso weird if they hear that frm u...most ppl wun do volunteering job for no good reason...

ya, think i wud just ask them how my statistic affect the pv parents who need to pv. my kid already admitted to school without pv n i really pv for no gd reason except hv some time to help out n i enjoy it.

[corneyAmber]

ChiefKiasu:

I believe there are many parents in Singapore that really want to help out with no ulterior motive. These are the ones that the schools would trust more than the once-in-a-lifetime PVs. I know of a few myself - heard from one of how she got the parents support group to implement some kind of a food-cart in school after observing some children who do not have money for buying food during recess. I was very touched by that.

I am curious abt this group of children n will probe further. Instead of just feeding them, maybe ask them to do some simple work to \"earn\" the recess cos if they are really needy kids, they learn the concept they need to make themselves useful to know how to get their next meals... but that is not saying non needy kids do not hv to learn.... if they want the food they also learn to earn it. at least give them a life skill that they know charity is not the way to live.... jmho. of course the observation made by the pv was excellent.

[ChiefKiasu]

ks2me:

I am curious abt this group of children n will probe further. Instead of just feeding them, maybe ask them to do some simple work to \"earn\" the recess cos if they are really needy kids, they learn the concept they need to make themselves useful to know how to get their next meals... but that is not saying non needy kids do not hv to learn.... if they want the food they also learn to earn it. at least give them a life skill that they know charity is not the way to live.... jmho. of course the observation made by the pv was excellent.

That's a pretty interesting but radical idea you have there, ks2me. Not sure how it could be logistically carried out without creating a stigma on the children involved. While it is in the spirit of the social democratic society we are in to make sure we earn our places in the community, asking kids to work for food may be stretching this concept a bit. It would help if you can flesh out your idea a bit more in terms of what you think the kids would be expected to do.

[corneyAmber]

Chief, firstly, I believe by providing food for them specially may already cause the stronger pride kids to feel the stigma...so no matter which way, stigma is unavoidable, then might as well achieve another positive outcome out of it?


There are a few ideas...and here is one of them. I do not think the number of such students are many, that is the assumption of this idea so a few carts can be set up.

1. Provide easy food like cakes, muffins, hotdogs, etc that is easy to serve.
2. Allow these children to help sell to other children as well but limit sale to 10 kids. so that the children \"working\" have time to eat and other children will not see that these grp are provided with free food but helping at the store.
3. The \"wages\" for the sale is food from that cart.
4. They help count money(gd skill to learn) and help pack up/tidy up.

So this can also help other children who want more choices of food and learn how to go q early for limited supply....(start from young) :lol:

also, it is not abt not wanting to donate...but based on original approach, the donation for daily supply is expensed off. But based on this new model, if there is some mini profit margin daily, then the expense amt is from the profit and the capital amt that is donated can remain consistent. then there is no headache of always looking for fund raising if suddenly someone decides not to fund this cause anymore and the poor kids suddenly lose their recess again....... maybe I think complicated but I prefer to think longer term solutions..

[ChiefKiasu]

ks2me:

...There are a few ideas...and here is one of them. I do not think the number of such students are many, that is the assumption of this idea so a few carts can be set up.


1. Provide easy food like cakes, muffins, hotdogs, etc that is easy to serve.
2. Allow these children to help sell to other children as well but limit sale to 10 kids. so that the children \"working\" have time to eat and other children will not see that these grp are provided with free food but helping at the store.
3. The \"wages\" for the sale is food from that cart.
4. They help count money(gd skill to learn) and help pack up/tidy up.
...

I like the idea! I'm sold. Time to market to higher management