Presidential Election 2011
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Has anyone considered that TCB MAY actually be PAP’s ideal choice of President? Someone who has built prior working relationships with the government but still independent minded enough to be a good check?
Perhaps TT is deliberately underperforming to draw the fire and ire away from the one whom they really want to get in? Seriously, TT has never come across as a fool and the way he has gone about conducting his campaign seems to play up his weaknesses (can’t speak Chinese) on purpose, and also play to stereotype (arrogant and impatient).
I know this thinking is a bit convoluted… but why not eh? -
growie:
My personal view between TSJ and TCB is this..verykiasu2010:
in MCQ test, some time we got no choice have to go by elimination .... same for this PE....at the end, who is of lesser evil when there is no ideal candidate ?
:goodpost: I'm also using this strategy.
I only know TT is out for me as it's far too obvious he has strong backup. TJS as mentioned by someone, is a bit confrontational but agreed that he does raise very good points and issues. TCB looks very warm and serious and TKL seems earnest to serve though he does pale in comparison to the others in speeches. Gotta read more and hear more before casting my vote next Saturday.
For TCB, he seems to be a charitable person, and the impression he gives me is that he will work \"hand-in-hand\" with the MIW and provide them \"advises\" and providing suggestions when facing economic issues etc based on his experiences and such.. he keep saying that he will not \"step out of line\" and kinda suggesting that some candidates is trying to promise something that is not within the power of the EP etc.. IIRC..
However, I will not choose someone like him.. becasue..
The PAP has been a very effective ruling party.. I believe, the MIW does not need someone to \"guide\" them.. the People, do not need someone to \"Teach\" MIW what to do..
On the other hand.. The ruling party has power.. A LOT of power.. and powers tends to corrupt.. The People NEED someone to Keep an eye on the ruling party and watch them closely.. Only the EP is able to do this task now.. as the pple have decided not to keep the power in check at the last GE..
Hence, I believe TSJ is a better choice..
He will be an effective check.. And the pple need checks and balances more.. rather them someone who is like an \"adviser\" to an already very capable and effective ruling party.. -
Chenonceau:
hhhmmm.... interesting..... but TT doesn't strike me as someone who would play the fall guy.Has anyone considered that TCB MAY actually be PAP's ideal choice of President? Someone who has built prior working relationships with the government but still independent minded enough to be a good check?
Perhaps TT is deliberately underperforming to draw the fire and ire away from the one whom they really want to get in? Seriously, TT has never come across as a fool and the way he has gone about conducting his campaign seems to play up his weaknesses (can't speak Chinese) on purpose, and also play to stereotype (arrogant and impatient).
I know this thinking is a bit convoluted... but why not eh? -
UPZ for this week and the coming LONG weekend!
How many of you r not working on MOnday 29/8…due to coy declare holiday or taking leave? -
Strparent:
http://infopedia.nl.sg/articles/SIP_899_2004-12-24.html
Thanks Strparent for the link. That is what I'm looking for to understand the roles of the EP. However, is a EP as 'powerless' as it is made to look? TCB, TKL & TJS all have differing views on this aspect. TT is saying that all the candidates should look at the job descriptions as stated and not aspiring for a different one. :? -
DesertWind:
I read some days ago in the ST interview when asked if he would quit as President. He said if he disagree with a MAJOR issue, he would quit. Sorry, I don't have the time to dig up the papers yet for your reference. So not that he has a track record of quitting but scared halfway through the Presidency he may quit. Also scared he may be kicked out by the garmen if he too confrontational. His picture showing him with Mr OTC somehow made me a bit nervous. Not sure what he is trying to convey but certainly would not want him to end up liddat. On second thought, you think the garmen would try to treat the next P like how they treat Mr OTC? Think they would not get away with it under current times.
When did he mention this? oni know he has this \"track record\" of quitting at the renaming of Jurong hospital incident.Otah:
[quote=\"DesertWind\"] Also he mentioned if he disagree with a major issue he would quit. Do I want a quitter ? :nunchuk:
Vote TT we will get another pseudo Ah Gong.... :faint:
But then again, we cannot kiasu, kiasi, kiasai. Major stakeholders will be watching their steps very carefully because otherwise, they are going to get it at the next GE....[/quote]DesertWind, Otah,
allow me to point out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9hh_Wzy6lo&feature=player_embedded.
It is also a weak signal to me. However, it seems many Singaporeans are not ready yet for someone too vocal or too bold like TJS who will argue to the till, for fear of instability.
Like limlim, I also feel what we NEED now in our evolving system, we need someone like TJS, but he has his flaws as well. I think VW would be great though, but he doesn't qualify.
So of the 4 candidates, the worst choice would be status quo, the others all have pros and cons, so maybe this can be a first step with a not too drastic change, anyway TJS is only 57 yrs old, he has time to simmer down a bit and be more grandfatherly as what many conservative Singaporeans want. I reiterate, conservative is okay, submissive is not. Else, better change back to appointed President and we can ignore all these points. But it is an ELECTED president to protect our reserves and to check on the existing cabinet, so we are not voting for a respectable looking ceremonial figure BUT pls consider what we are actually voting for the new President to do properly the duties as stipulated. - and it is not to be a yes man. -
Chenonceau:
TT appears too arrogant to accept this 'role'. His arrogant smile tells me he likes hearing good things about himself not the other way round.Has anyone considered that TCB MAY actually be PAP's ideal choice of President? Someone who has built prior working relationships with the government but still independent minded enough to be a good check?
Perhaps TT is deliberately underperforming to draw the fire and ire away from the one whom they really want to get in? Seriously, TT has never come across as a fool and the way he has gone about conducting his campaign seems to play up his weaknesses (can't speak Chinese) on purpose, and also play to stereotype (arrogant and impatient).
I know this thinking is a bit convoluted... but why not eh?
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5 more days to D-Day. I've only eliminated 1 ! Still :frustrated:
This is harder than GE ! Is there any live debate on TV ? Any rallies (besides the TT one at Boat Quay) ? -
pixiedust:
Tuesday at TPY stadium. Wed at Yio Chu Kang stadium. 7pm onwards.5 more days to D-Day. I've only eliminated 1 ! Still :frustrated:
This is harder than GE ! Is there any live debate on TV ? Any rallies (besides the TT one at Boat Quay) ?
TJS & TKL. Sorry, I can't quite remember who is where, but there should be action in these 2 places. TCB so far no news on rally. -
Just to share..
\"[Xin Ming News] Presidential candidates asked on Ong Teng Cheong's difficulty in gettin reserve info
The 4 presidential candiates were interviewed about it\"
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=58862427&postcount=1
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