Presidential Election 2011
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Oops, sorry if there are any Sharon Aw fans here β¦
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concern2:
i dont really quite understand how her speech is related to our PE
Umm..doesn't TT know that she isn't that popular?raysusan:
sharon au speech for TT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJmQEKjdWDY&feature=feedu
her speech like meaningless to me -
Actually never see what he said. Whether he holds rally or not, to me is moot. Went for the rally yesterday and came away with my beliefs reinforced. I think he should stick to GE, he can say more and do more there.
In any case, GE rally more fun. PE rally I think they have to show moderation. to me it was more like speech day than anything.
Seems more swinging over to TJS, will be fun to see how he actually behaves once heβs in office (IF he gets in). Sorry to say then I will turn off more becos I think I will enjoy looking at pix of the first lady/family. Paiseh paiseh. -
Way2GO:
It is not my place to convince anyone, but I personally feel that after so many years, we finally have a chance to appoint a person who will REALLY keep a check on our reserves ( which we know nothing about ! ) and also get involved ( advisory ) in several key issues which involved the citizens of Singapore. Are we going to missed this chance ? Are we going back to the safe option which gives absolute power to ONE entity ? As I said earlier, the EP is one person, if he INDEED turned out to be a bad egg, you can be sure he will be bundled out by MIW, so kia simi ????
Don't mean to ask dis in a contentious way...
but convince me TJS can unite d ppl n he will get my vote + a few more.
Some ppl view his style as 'confrontational', though I would say he is combative which is not necessarily bad.
To convince you, I better let these people do it, some of the speeches are excellent points, and not all just cheering TJS. Take some time to listen them all, then decide.
http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/news/68480.html
http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/news/68488.html
http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/news/68498.html
http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/news/68534.html
my personal favourites speeches are by Basil Hwang and Dr Wijeysingha
btw, Some forumers pointed out Tommy Koh, Gerald Ee not interestd in this role as they are happy where they are.
Do you seriously think TT was not happy where he was ?
Do you think he WANTS to be in this present situation where all that he did in the past which were not popular or successful are now public discussion topics ?
Do you think he likes to be questioned about his 3 sons not serving NSF properly and having special privileges ?
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concern2:
TCB is beginning to look overly opinionated.
He has started attacking TJS..
http://www.todayonline.com/SingaporeVotes/EDC110824-0000884/Tan-Cheng-Bock-criticises-Tan-Jee-Say
Some comments from other forums..
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3373526EDMW:
\"I wonder Nathan got do how many things in PRIVATE as well.\"
\"To be honest, if we just need another president to act as the executor, it will be a another total waste of resources.\"
\"By this article, it only confirms that TCB is a Yes-Man. And the public will never sees or know what he do. Like prataman.\"
\"What is so secretive that the fellow Singaporeans cannot know?\"
\"I like TCB, but i feel that TCB isn't the president we need at the moment.
TJS is the president we need right now.\"
\"Nth works in 'private' would the pa let oppositions mp attend events in their own ward if csm had kept it private? I doubt so\"
\"Voices have to be make vocal and heard...
...at least let the general public decides..
...quiet discuss behind will surely let the issues swept under and cover up.\"
\"TCB is a nice man.. but he sure tio jiak by the Gahmen one.. everything done privately.. no transparency.. if he tio jiak, we also dunch know.. and the outcome of tio jiak... is the gahment gets its way.. lidat how to check and balance? sigh... \"
\"I will vote tan jee say because I want a president. Voting for TCB or TT means another 6 years of not having a president.\" -
Thanks for the updates about TCB. LOL, now more confused liao!
Maybe saturday I will need to "tee kum"β¦ -
concern2:
Excellent post. It helps tidy and sum up the analysis very well. Thanks! :goodpost:I would also like to share my thoughts at this point into the election, and, like what hquek said, I also have no intention to change people's mind. Do feel free to give me your comments if any.
To deem confrontation as undesirable and should be avoided is to accept that submissiveness is a way of life. Yet, to see confrontation as the only way to achieve results may lead to loss of opportunities.
With the elimination process over, and all candidates being given the certificate of ELIGIBILITY, I would take it that all candidates are equally qualified, hence I would consider the qualities that I would look for in this round of presidency election (hopefully there will be others to come in the future).
I would like to vote for someone with:
1) the temperament to confront without fear and reservations when situation arises,
2) the capability and ability to state his stand clearly without ambiguity,
3) the wisdom and wit in countering attacks (rather than picking up a fight)
4) the stamina and tenacity to hold through thick and thin.
Although non of the candidates fit my criteria perfectly, but, I need to make a choice.
Standing from a different perspective, If I am an employer, I'd employ TJS for the money worth. He has the qualities of an \"FT\" (definition of FT has been blurred now, so I put inverted commas) that Singapore needs: He is willing to do the job for less money, (the least money). Can tell he will try his best, comes from humble background, so will not have too much air and have a good touch with the ground, have comparatively young children so can understand and easily empathize with the growing pains and the kind of hardship that this generation is facing (not retiring with fat bank account), respects authority, yet hungry enough not to remain status quo.
My only concern is whether TJS has enough wisdom to hold such a high office. But alas, if he has not enough wisdom to know when to stop, he'd be asked to leave (for trampling too much over grey areas perhaps?) and as a voter, I would have to be prepared to see this as a possibility if I were to vote for him. However, like a horse he will gallop, he will not die on me by suffering in silence, or decide to quit on me.
TJS will also set these precedents:
1) Of a non-PAP member becoming a president
2) Of an opposition member becoming a president
3) of someone from an ordinary family background (to this day, not someone with pension) becoming president
These precedents are important because it gives one HOPE.
In uniting the people, there is difference in definition. TJS can unite the people who feel that government has lost touch with the people. But he will be unable to unite those who think the loss of unity is due to the emergence of strong political opponents, i.e., towards the die-hard PAP supporters, he will not be able to do much, only time will tell, and only by proving himself - if he is ever given a chance.
There is also this thing about personal agenda, which I do not quite comprehend. I mean, don't we, the voters, have our own personal agenda too? Like we want change, or do not want to rock the boat or fear the stock market will plunge further etc., aren't these personal agendas too? Instead of seeing politicians out to achieve their agendas, why can't we turn the tables around, and achieve our personal agendas by using our vote to support the one whom we think can help us most at this point in time?
I hope my tone doesn't sound like I am trying to convince anyone I am voting for TJS, because I haven't made up my mind. These are the issues that goes around in my head, and questions I am asking myself.
Recent incidents such as the case with the 7th month invitations can and may influence my decisions as I get to see how each of the candidates respond to such challenges. Or will I have to go ini mini my ni mo come the day to elect? -
TKL rally .....is is real.....?
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320849_10150294874023001_345185573000_8065988_7875634_n.jpg -
raysusan:
:yikes: can't be that bad right.. ....let me go HWZ to check out..TKL rally .....is is real.....?
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320849_10150294874023001_345185573000_8065988_7875634_n.jpg -
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