Presidential Election 2011
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insider:
Thank you for your view. I did give free a lotta things apart from the petition... some relating to politics too.
If the issue is a social one, such as that MOE petition, then the 'invitation' is likely to be a welcoming and friendly one since 'free input' and so why not.Chenonceau:
I had a positive and RECENT personal experience of being a nobody giving negative feedback to the government and thought I should share it... to balance out views backed by events and writings from 1994.
If the issue is a political one, then I am not so sure whether \"views backed by events and writings from 1994\" will apply...
冰冻三尺，非一日之寒 (literal translation: a three feet thick layer of ice cannot be frozen overnight).
PS: I don't give govt free input at all coz waste time - my personal stand only. -
Not sure if this has been posted, but a nice commentary
--> http://newasiarepublic.com/?p=32523&cpage=1#comment-9035 -
By definition, there are more options for solutions than there are real solutions. Quite simply, because the persons in authority did not implement ONE option for a solution to a problem, does not mean that it was not heard or that feedback was not taken. At the ed of the day, decisions need to be made, and we cannot be in discussions forever.
Is the decision-making perfect? Absolutely not. But I think the batting average has been reasonably good. So, don’t quit engaging.
Are they ruling party vindictive? I think not reflexively, perhaps with the exception of several individuals.
One only needs to look at current examples. Heard Dr Paul Ananth speak recently? He has not been targeted nor has he had issues during NS or at his workplace. Dig a little further back in history, and you find Philip Jeyaretnam, son of you know who. He was a sword of honour winner in OCS at the time his father was opposition MP and much disliked by the MIW. He is presently president of the Law Society and managing partner of one of the most established and prominent law firms in Singapore.
There have been a fair amount of egregious behaviours in the past, and some nasty edges remain to this day, which is why things are not so easily forgiven. Both sides have work to do, but we as the active citizenry should not disengage. -
Chenonceau:
OK, ok, won't press you further. You've been a valuable contributor and I've learnt much from all these sharing. Don't want to get you into 'trouble' with our probing.Shoo... go away. No more questions about me. I deflected journalists and will do the same to you. I have no political aspirations and dun want too much attention on me. I share my views here like everyone else. I had a positive and RECENT personal experience of being a nobody giving negative feedback to the government and thought I should share it... to balance out views backed by events and writings from 1994.
I felt that it was fair to reveal myself fully and speak openly to the govt when they sent a real person with a face and a name to chat with me. I am not comfortable doing this on a forum where I know everyone by nick only. So sorry if I cannot satisfy your curiosity.
I am sorry also that I have had an experience that runs counter to what many who support the opposition would like to paint the govt to be. I suppose you are free to not believe me... and do forgive me my reticence to divulge every detail of my personal experience in order to convince you. I am no politician, you see, and dun wish to be.
So, take my sharing as everything else you see on the internet. Believe me if it suits you. Disbelieve me if it creates too much cognitive dissonance in you. Your curiosity is not a good enough reason for me to over expose myself in cyberspace. I am sure you will understand.
The govt has other issues today... surplus of FTs... the issue of PT... the problem with GRCs... the unequal opportunities in education... housing... ministerial pay... but I seriously don't think it is intolerant of dissension today.
I don't have so much 'ink' like you, so don't think I am worth being 'tracked down'. Nevertheless, Catherine Lim's case saddens me, and I am glad it hasn't stopped her completely from writing about politics and society. Appreciate her latest Play very much. -
If I may cite one more reference --> http://newasiarepublic.com/?p=32489
I quote; \"Results of the Presidential elections basically confirmed the writing on the wall: Jee Say is unable to win over the middle ground or swing voters. Jee Say’s margin of 25.04% is very close to Singapore Democratic Party’s 23.3% in Sembawang Group Representative Constituency during the 2006 General Elections, where Dr Tony Tan was formerly from.
Those that voted for Jee Say are typical opposition voters, the types who are happy to vote for anyone contesting against a PAP or PAP-backed candidate. The truth of the matter is that if Jee Say wants to enter Parliament, he has to win over the middle ground and swing voters.\"
Bang on head, I believe. -
3Boys, I totally agree with you on this! :hi5: TJS is more suited to be an opposition MP than president. I'm curious to see if he would rejoin the SDP and contest the next GE, and when the next PE comes around, whether he would quit the party again to run for the next PE. :skeptical:
3Boys:
Let you in on a little secret. I was contemplating TJS up to the point of nomination day. When Dr TT got booed, there was this great opportunity to TJS to appear 'Presidential' and 'Above politics', by slamming those who booed him. He could have said, lets respect the political process, whatever your feelings.
However, he did not, he did the exact opposite and copped-out. He made an excuse for those he felt were his likely supporters, and in the process, turned off many neutrals. From that point, to me, he was not electable as President. Oppo MP perhaps, but not President.
I fear his supporters more than I do him. As an elected official, he would have felt pressure to pander to their agenda. As a leader, he must do what is right, not necessarily what is popular. Would he dare stand up to his supporters and say \"No, what you are asking is unreasonable, I believe the g'ment is right in this instance.\" He tried to morph his position in the end, but it was far too late. He complains that the campaign period was too short. Actually, I think if there had been no campaigning AT ALL, he would have done better at the polls than he did. -
Angelight:
me think he is expert in flip flop :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:3Boys, I totally agree with you on this! :hi5: TJS is more suited to be an opposition MP than president. I'm curious to see if he would rejoin the SDP and contest the next GE, and when the next PE comes around, whether he would quit the party again to run for the next PE. :skeptical:
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Yup, DH said that TJS goes where the wind blows…I think he has to be more decisive on whether he wants to run in future GE or PE so that he will be taken more seriously and won’t give others the impression of an opportunist.
And whether he contests in future GE or PE, he has to earn his credit by working on the grassroots level first, serving the community. Just talking about the ‘heart’ is no use. Talk is cheap, but action speaks louder than words. Just my 2 cents’ view. -
3Boys:
Phillip Jeyaretnam a Sword of Honour winner?By definition, there are more options for solutions than there are real solutions. Quite simply, because the persons in authority did not implement ONE option for a solution to a problem, does not mean that it was not heard or that feedback was not taken. At the ed of the day, decisions need to be made, and we cannot be in discussions forever.
Is the decision-making perfect? Absolutely not. But I think the batting average has been reasonably good. So, don't quit engaging.
Are they ruling party vindictive? I think not reflexively, perhaps with the exception of several individuals.
One only needs to look at current examples. Heard Dr Paul Ananth speak recently? He has not been targeted nor has he had issues during NS or at his workplace. Dig a little further back in history, and you find Philip Jeyaretnam, son of you know who. He was a sword of honour winner in OCS at the time his father was opposition MP and much disliked by the MIW. He is presently president of the Law Society and managing partner of one of the most established and prominent law firms in Singapore.
There have been a fair amount of egregious behaviours in the past, and some nasty edges remain to this day, which is why things are not so easily forgiven. Both sides have work to do, but we as the active citizenry should not disengage.
Dis is news to me. -
Angelight:
Wat about those PAP MPs who were parachute into GE n who didn't hv a history of community or grassroots' work prior to being earmark for election?Yup, DH said that TJS goes where the wind blows...I think he has to be more decisive on whether he wants to run in future GE or PE so that he will be taken more seriously and won't give others the impression of an opportunist.
And whether he contests in future GE or PE, he has to earn his credit by working on the grassroots level first, serving the community. Just talking about the 'heart' is no use. Talk is cheap, but action speaks louder than words. Just my 2 cents' view.
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