Q&A - P1 Chinese

[metz]

地 can be pronounced as di4 or de4.

得 can be pronounced as de2 or dei3.

[metz]

Sorry, my son only attended one semester of P1, no Chinese Oral but he did English Oral. So, I was under the impression there was no more Chinese Oral in P1.


Hi Janet,

thanks for the tips. I didn't realize the glossary is so useful.

WCW,

Hope this might help you .

kattay:

Many children are confused about the use of “的”, “地” and “得” in a sentence. They are three of the common mistakes I have to correct last time. These 3 are high frequency words and they are all read as “de”. So when children want to pen down the word, they are not sure which to use.

Here’s some tips on how to use these 3 important words:

1. “的” is used in front of a noun (ie. A word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, and abstract idea). Words in front of “的” usually describe or restrict the noun behind.
Sentence structure: Descriptive/ restrictive word + 的 + noun
Eg. 我的妈妈；公园的景物美极了；有趣的情节； 轻轻的河水
妈妈，景物，情节 and 河水 are nouns, so we should use “的” in front of them. 我 and 公园 restrict the noun behind; it’s not her mother but mine, it’s not the school’s scenery but the park’s. 有趣 and 轻轻 describe the noun behind.

2. “地” is used in front of a verb (ie. An action word). Words in front of “地” usually describe the verb behind.
Sentence structure: Descriptive word + 地 + verb
Eg. 他大声地回答问题； 愉快地唱歌；用力地踢球；开心地笑
回答，唱歌，踢球 and 笑 are verbs, so we should use “地” in front of them. Word in front of “地” describes the actions after it; it usually tells you the “how” of the action, eg. how did he answer the question (他怎样回答问题？他大声地回答问题)

3. “得” is used after a verb. Words that come after “得” further elaborate the verb in front. The emphasis is on the verb in front.
Sentence structure: Verb + 得 + words that elaborate the verb
Eg. 打扫得很干净；笑得流出了眼泪；走得很快；跳得很高
打扫，笑，走 and 跳 are verbs. If “很”，“真”and“太”are used in a sentence, “得” will usually precede these words.
Eg. 跳得很高，时间过得真快，收音机开得太大声了

However, there are exceptions to the general rules above, depending on what’s the emphasis of the sentence.
Eg. 他高兴得跳了起来 (He is so happy that he jumps into the air)
高兴is a descriptive word and 跳 is a verb. The emphasis here is his happiness, not his jumping action. So we need to use “得” before the verb in this case.

Another example:
A) 看了这场电影，她感动得哭了。
B) 看了这场电影，她感动地哭了。
In these 2 sentences, the only difference is “得” and “地” but it makes a lot of difference in the meaning. Sentence A emphasizes on “感动”, “哭了” elaborates on her emotion (ie. How touched is she?). On the other hand, sentence B emphasizes on “哭了”, “感动” is added to describe how she cried.

We can teach the children about all these rules, but the best way is for them to read more.

[janet88]

Hi chamonix,

All the characters in the shi4 xie3 zi4 (glossary right column) is very important as kids must know how to write and recognize them...for shi4 ren4 zi4, kids must know what they are (bigger box in left column).

At P1, they are introduced to eraser (xiang4 bi3), pencil (qian1 bi3), pencil box (wen2 ju4 he2), sharpener (juan4 bi3 dao1). Gave away son's P2 Chinese textbooks as daughter doesn't use HCL, or else can compare... :stupid:

[poppy15]

chamonix:

poppy15:

DS in K2 nw... they started HYPY since beginning of term 3...

and lucky he's nt mixed up between HYPY & english phonics..

Let me look into my crystal ball. Ah, I forsee your DS is gonna have a breezy first semester in P1 next year. According to my son's P1 teacher, if a kid takes to HYPY well, there will be no headache in learning HYPY.

thanks chamonix...

but still will get mixed up at times lah... like zhu(1) or zu(1) (pig)...

this i know very sure is zhu...

[poppy15]

WCW:

I was told that these terms for stationary will be out for picture oral or composition... So the child need to know.

I myself dnt even know what they are call :oops:

me too.... usually will say those words in english instead...

like 你的eraser 呢 or 用你的sharpener lah... rokak language...

[poppy15]

:thankyou: chamonix for sharing... really useful info here...

kattay:

1. “的” is used in front of a noun (ie. A word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, and abstract idea). Words in front of “的” usually describe or restrict the noun behind.
Sentence structure: Descriptive/ restrictive word + 的 + noun
Eg. 我的妈妈；公园的景物美极了；有趣的情节； 轻轻的河水
妈妈，景物，情节 and 河水 are nouns, so we should use “的” in front of them. 我 and 公园 restrict the noun behind; it’s not her mother but mine, it’s not the school’s scenery but the park’s. 有趣 and 轻轻 describe the noun behind.

2. “地” is used in front of a verb (ie. An action word). Words in front of “地” usually describe the verb behind.
Sentence structure: Descriptive word + 地 + verb
Eg. 他大声地回答问题； 愉快地唱歌；用力地踢球；开心地笑
回答，唱歌，踢球 and 笑 are verbs, so we should use “地” in front of them. Word in front of “地” describes the actions after it; it usually tells you the “how” of the action, eg. how did he answer the question (他怎样回答问题？他大声地回答问题)

3. “得” is used after a verb. Words that come after “得” further elaborate the verb in front. The emphasis is on the verb in front.
Sentence structure: Verb + 得 + words that elaborate the verb
Eg. 打扫得很干净；笑得流出了眼泪；走得很快；跳得很高
打扫，笑，走 and 跳 are verbs. If “很”，“真”and“太”are used in a sentence, “得” will usually precede these words.
Eg. 跳得很高，时间过得真快，收音机开得太大声了

We can teach the children about all these rules, but the best way is for them to read more.

[poppy15]

js saw DS's 教学大纲


they have 书写汉字，学习句子，学习听写，学习填充，学习看图造句，学习组词成句，学习词语配对， 学习理解问答， 学习看图说故事.. :yikes:

and many more...

in my time... if i remember correctly... where got so much to learn in K2 one... :faint:

[mummy of 2]

poppy15:

js saw DS's 教学大纲


they have 书写汉字，学习句子，学习听写，学习填充，学习看图造句，学习组词成句，学习词语配对， 学习理解问答， 学习看图说故事.. :yikes:

and many more...

in my time... if i remember correctly... where got so much to learn in K2 one... :faint:

This is scary. I think DS doesn't learn half of that in school. I better supplement at home.

[poppy15]

scary rite? ... DS only in K2 leh... gosh...


but he seems to walk right thru it with a breeze... one thing is, he loves mandarin so i think its nt difficult for him... plus my mil is ard to guide him thru...

[mummy of 2]

DS also likes Chinese as we speak mainly mandarin at home. There’s an article in straits times today on how teachers will assess the kids by listening to their conversation as part of the new curriculum. Looks like spoken language will be given higher weightage. But still think it’s impt to read and recognize the characters. Have to start coaching DS on han yu pin yin as his school doesn’t teach it at all.