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    Presidential Election 2011

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    • B Offline
      blueblue
      last edited by

      Way2GO:
      Angelight:

      3Boys, I totally agree with you on this! :hi5: TJS is more suited to be an opposition MP than president. I'm curious to see if he would rejoin the SDP and contest the next GE, and when the next PE comes around, whether he would quit the party again to run for the next PE. :skeptical:


      [quote=\"3Boys\"] Let you in on a little secret. I was contemplating TJS up to the point of nomination day. When Dr TT got booed, there was this great opportunity to TJS to appear 'Presidential' and 'Above politics', by slamming those who booed him. He could have said, lets respect the political process, whatever your feelings.

      However, he did not, he did the exact opposite and copped-out. He made an excuse for those he felt were his likely supporters, and in the process, turned off many neutrals. From that point, to me, he was not electable as President. Oppo MP perhaps, but not President.


      I fear his supporters more than I do him. As an elected official, he would have felt pressure to pander to their agenda. As a leader, he must do what is right, not necessarily what is popular. Would he dare stand up to his supporters and say \"No, what you are asking is unreasonable, I believe the g'ment is right in this instance.\" He tried to morph his position in the end, but it was far too late. He complains that the campaign period was too short. Actually, I think if there had been no campaigning AT ALL, he would have done better at the polls than he did.

      Me think dat he bank on d 40% oppo voters,
      started his campaign with dis target to win,
      but later realized not all oppo voters agree with his 'confrontational' stance,
      shifted towards d centre,
      but alas it came too late in d campaign to win over d centrists.
      IMV, he would hv gain more political capital if he had withdrawn his candidacy
      n openly back TCB.[/quote]
      totally agreed with u on this...I belong to the group 'trying to guess who will hv the more votes between TCB and TJS..anyone better than tt..

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      • DesertWindD Offline
        DesertWind
        last edited by

        ksi:
        Trying to give another perspective about statistics. Say, if Dr TCB has won, he would also win with 30+% given the number of contenders and their campaigning efforts, it would also mean 60+% not supporting him and he will have to prove himself the same. Similiarly for TJS. So for each of them individually whoever won, they would have to press on in the new role with a 60+% not supporting them, they have to spur themselves abit by thinking positive.

        Totally agree. Will be same for other candidates as well. So nothing more to say just carry on with our life. BTW, not reading anything about the swearing in and other news about the new P etc. Somehow after the PE rose-tinted glasses all dropped. A pity, gone are the innocent and care-free days when things are still \"sacred\"....

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        • H Offline
          hquek
          last edited by

          same as with desertwind, after all that info digestion, somehow what’s going on in dhoby ghaut doesn’t interest me anymore. Will have to get over this state of ennui.

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          • DesertWindD Offline
            DesertWind
            last edited by

            Angelight:
            Yup, DH said that TJS goes where the wind blows...I think he has to be more decisive on whether he wants to run in future GE or PE so that he will be taken more seriously and won't give others the impression of an opportunist.


            And whether he contests in future GE or PE, he has to earn his credit by working on the grassroots level first, serving the community. Just talking about the 'heart' is no use. Talk is cheap, but action speaks louder than words. Just my 2 cents' view.
            I agree. TJS has quite turned me off already during this PE. Although he did raised his profile a LOT and many recognize him now but for me (middle ground, swing voters, \"new-PAP\" supporter), it is unlikely for me to vote for him in the future.

            I think 2 weeks is quite enough of campaign period. Even PM praised TCB for the way he campaigned and 2 weeks was enough for him to pull so many votes!

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            • V Offline
              verykiasu2010
              last edited by

              http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201109051501-273347.html


              陈如斯或将组新政党,以新政党领袖姿态,再战2016年大选。

              坊间传闻,刚在总统选举中败选的前民主党党员陈如斯,或将组成并领导新政党,挑战2016年的大选。

              陈如斯受访时告诉《新明日报》,他不排除这个可能,因为的确有支持者向他做出这个建议,但他还未决定,也不排除回归民主党。

              “我在3个月内参加两次选举,目前只想要休息,而且全国大选应该会在2016年才举行,还有大把时间。”

              当被问及他可能是目前反对党阵营中,唯一一位能获得总统候选人证书的人,而这是否对他率领政党有帮助时,陈如斯答说:“这是反对党的优势,并不是我个人的优势。这让国人知道,反对党人中也有资历很突出、可媲美行动党党员的人选。”

              他表示即使成立新政党,作风也不会刻意与其他政党不同,主要还是一个“为人民着想”的政党。

              完整报道,请翻阅05.09.2011《新明日报》。

              as expected, TJS is just another political opportunist

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              • A Offline
                Angelight
                last edited by

                I'm not surprised. He will go where the wind blows...


                verykiasu2010:
                http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201109051501-273347.html

                陈如斯或将组新政党,以新政党领袖姿态,再战2016年大选。

                坊间传闻,刚在总统选举中败选的前民主党党员陈如斯,或将组成并领导新政党,挑战2016年的大选。

                陈如斯受访时告诉《新明日报》,他不排除这个可能,因为的确有支持者向他做出这个建议,但他还未决定,也不排除回归民主党。

                “我在3个月内参加两次选举,目前只想要休息,而且全国大选应该会在2016年才举行,还有大把时间。”

                当被问及他可能是目前反对党阵营中,唯一一位能获得总统候选人证书的人,而这是否对他率领政党有帮助时,陈如斯答说:“这是反对党的优势,并不是我个人的优势。这让国人知道,反对党人中也有资历很突出、可媲美行动党党员的人选。”

                他表示即使成立新政党,作风也不会刻意与其他政党不同,主要还是一个“为人民着想”的政党。

                完整报道,请翻阅05.09.2011《新明日报》。

                as expected, TJS is just another political opportunist

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                • L Offline
                  limlim
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                  I wouldn’t vote for him if there’s a better choice…


                  Anyway, for my area, got WP… which I feel is a better choice…

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                  • H Offline
                    hquek
                    last edited by

                    I went for TJS rally and recall hearing JCA reiterating that he’s totally independent in view that he only joined politics 4 months ago during GE. Well, if he fails during the next GE, I dont’ think they can trumpet the same tune at the next PE.

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                    • C Offline
                      concern2
                      last edited by

                      limlim:
                      I wouldn't vote for him if there's a better choice..


                      Anyway, for my area, got WP.. which I feel is a better choice..

                      Agree. Doesn't put him in very good light, but will be interesting to see..

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                      • W Offline
                        Way2GO
                        last edited by

                        DesertWind:


                        I agree. TJS has quite turned me off already during this PE. Although he did raised his profile a LOT and many recognize him now but for me (middle ground, swing voters, \"new-PAP\" supporter), it is unlikely for me to vote for him in the future.

                        I think 2 weeks is quite enough of campaign period. Even PM praised TCB for the way he campaigned and 2 weeks was enough for him to pull so many votes!
                        Help me to understand this.
                        What's the new PAP?

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