Presidential Election 2011

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DesertWind:

schweppes:

i was under the impression that DesertWind's \"new PAP\" supporters refer to the newly minted Spore citizens, no? :?

Hi schweppes,
No, I don't mean the new Spore citizens. This term \"new-PAP\" was used in a newspaper article writing about the recent PE2011 and referring to TCB campaign and its supporters.

adoi :slapshead:

Thanks for the clarification DesertWind. Must have missed that write-up in the papers.

DesertWind:

Those who voted for TCB were mainly PAP supporters but instead of voting for TT, chose to vote for TCB instead. The so-called \"new-PAP\" as I understand it means someone like TCB who was long-time PAP member but vocal, not afraid to speak up, will vote against party policies if he deems fit and most importantly, having the HEART for Singaporeans. Having the soft-touch instead of just using the mind like the \"old-PAP\" (I don't want to elaborate on this).

eh... this one don't have to elaborate :evil:

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Way2GO:

schweppes:

i was under the impression that DesertWind's \"new PAP\" supporters refer to the newly minted Spore citizens, no? :?

I could be wrong.
But my reading is she meant new-PAP supporter n not new PAP supporter.

Got it. Thanks W2G

[verykiasu2010]

those who are the "new PAP" from within the party should just openly walk out and form a new party and would probably win more votes any time

[Way2GO]

DesertWind:

Hi Way2Go,
This \"new-PAP\" was used to describe TCB and the type of President/Government that his supporters hope to see.

I am not sure whether we now have a \"new-PAP\". But it is something that people like us hope to see going forward.

Thx Desertwind. I missed d article.

Interestingly d 3 gentlemen vk2010 mentioned were 'seen' to belong to ESM GCT's \"faction\".
Starting from 2006 to GE2011, all three were sidelined.
Dat \"faction\", if it represents d new-PAP, is now severely weakened.

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

those who are the \"new PAP\" from within the party should just openly walk out and form a new party and would probably win more votes any time

d tipping point has not been reached yet.
Those who continue to toe d line r well taken care of.

Actually, TCB's 'plight' is an example.

[verykiasu2010]

Way2GO:

verykiasu2010:

those who are the \"new PAP\" from within the party should just openly walk out and form a new party and would probably win more votes any time

d tipping point has not been reached yet.
Those who continue to toe d line r well taken care of.

Actually, TCB's 'plight' is an example.

some were sidelined due to ideological differences

some were sidelined due to non-performance

some were sidelined due to skull too thick that public outcries on bad policies were not heard

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

some were sidelined due to ideological differences

some were sidelined due to non-performance

some were sidelined due to skull too thick that public outcries on bad policies were not heard

So GY falls into one of these categories
or was he collateral damage in GE2011?

[verykiasu2010]

Way2GO:

verykiasu2010:

some were sidelined due to ideological differences

some were sidelined due to non-performance

some were sidelined due to skull too thick that public outcries on bad policies were not heard

So GY falls into one of these categories
or was he collateral damage in GE2011?

if they could move Lim Swee Say from Bukit Timah - Holland to the East, why could't they move GY if there is a need to 'save' him; or PAP/LHL really thought GY could save his GRC......no doubt he polled more than 50% but was pulled down by other team members

the GRC system is a two-edged sword now

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

if they could move Lim Swee Say from Bukit Timah - Holland to the East, why could't they move GY if there is a need to 'save' him; or PAP/LHL really thought GY could save his GRC......no doubt he polled more than 50% but was pulled down by other team members

the GRC system is a two-edged sword now

Good point.
Whether GY wins or loses in Aljunied, it's win-win for LHL tactically, yes?

Agree on \"the GRC system is a two-edged sword\".
How some would hv thot d dominant party had suddenly turned magnanimous
in reducing the GRC size, increasing SMCs n NCMPs in GE2011.

[verykiasu2010]

Way2GO:

verykiasu2010:

if they could move Lim Swee Say from Bukit Timah - Holland to the East, why could't they move GY if there is a need to 'save' him; or PAP/LHL really thought GY could save his GRC......no doubt he polled more than 50% but was pulled down by other team members

the GRC system is a two-edged sword now

Good point.
Whether GY wins or loses in Aljunied, it's win-win for LHL tactically, yes?

Agree on \"the GRC system is a two-edged sword\".
How some would hv thot d dominant party had suddenly turned magnanimous
in reducing the GRC size, increasing SMCs n NCMPs in GE2011.

looking at it positively, the process and the system is maturing alongside the electorate